Micro$oft said ''3 year warranty on red ring'', Is that from launch day or 3 years from your purchased, because from what I understand, its 3 years from launch day. Also, if you buy a used system do you still get the 3 year warranty?Question about the 360 3 red light warra ...
3 years from when you buy the console probably....dont know about the second questionQuestion about the 360 3 red light warra ...
I think it is three years from purchase, and that you need the original receipt to prove that you are within the three years from the original purchase when new.I also bought a used one, just off of my brother, and he hadn't kept his receipt, arg. Hoping for no problems.
When mine broke they never even askewd for my receipt
Joke right?
Warranty is always active from when you purchase the item, rather then when it was first released.
Friday, April 16, 2010
Wii better have a price drop b4 Mario Ka ...
The only game I know I will have fun with and will never bore me. ALso with its online play I will wait for you losers across the finish line. Nobody can touch the master. And with bikes in the game and rumor to do tricks I will be taunting you all game.Is there even a Rumor of a price drop. I still find the wii over priced and can not find in myself to buy the wii at $250. I want it at $150 without wii sports.Wii better have a price drop b4 Mario Ka ...
I use to say that too ( 150.00 ) but after 15 months and I have yet to walk into a store with Wii's on the shelf for 250.00 - I wouldn't look for a price drop anytime soon.Wii better have a price drop b4 Mario Ka ...
Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?
[QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.
I dont think they can justify a price drop until console sales cool down, which has not happened since launch. I do think that they should start dropping the price of their accessories and controllers. It must be a simple thing to make them, a lot simpler than a console anyway
The Wii will not be having a price drop any time soon and there is no rumor of a price drop. The thing sells out. You don't lower the price on something that sells out, its not good business. Don't expect a price drop until they stop selling out.
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE] They should milk the demand for all it's worth at 250, obviously.Consider this: 1 million consoles sold at 250 vs. 200 is an extra 50 million dollars.
[QUOTE=''Blackbond'']The Wii will not be having a price drop any time soon and there is no rumor of a price drop. The thing sells out. You don't lower the price on something that sells out, its not good business. Don't expect a price drop until they stop selling out.[/QUOTE] I know it is just wishful hope because Mario Kart is my game. Only game besides Zelda I am passionate about.
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE]The demand is already higher then the supply. Increasing the demand right now does nothing if you can't increase the supply.
[QUOTE=''Jandurin''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE] They should milk the demand for all it's worth at 250, obviously.Consider this: 1 million consoles sold at 250 vs. 200 is an extra 50 million dollars.[/QUOTE] Oh I know I am just looking out for my own self interests not Nintendo.
[QUOTE=''Blackbond''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE]The demand is already higher then the supply. Increasing the demand right now does nothing if you can't increase the supply. You won't buy it until its under $200 fine. You won't be buying it until sometime after this Christmas.[/QUOTE] While true it will definately make more people want the system more. I have no intent on buying one until it is cheaper.
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim'']Oh I know I am just looking out for my own self interests not Nintendo. [/QUOTE]Well wake up to the business world. I'm 100% sure they aren't going to lower their price to satisfy you while they are still selling out. Maybe you could try finding a pre-owned Wii somewhere?
Funny thing is I have seen many wii in stores. If i had wanted to buy one I could already. I just need the price drop.
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''Blackbond''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE]The demand is already higher then the supply. Increasing the demand right now does nothing if you can't increase the supply. You won't buy it until its under $200 fine. You won't be buying it until sometime after this Christmas.[/QUOTE] While true it will definately make more people want the system more. I have no intent on buying one until it is cheaper.[/QUOTE]What good does increasing the demaned do for Nintendo right now? Increasing the demand while not increasing the supply just leads to more people piled upon the already frustrated amount of people that can't find a Wii.
[QUOTE=''Blackbond''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim'']Oh I know I am just looking out for my own self interests not Nintendo. [/QUOTE]Well wake up to the business world. I'm 100% sure they aren't going to lower their price to satisfy you while they are still selling out. Maybe you could try finding a pre-owned Wii somewhere?[/QUOTE] I am sure those cost more than the retail price.
Why would nintendo listen to you, and make the Wii cheaper (which they can do). The console is selling like crazy with the pricepoint at this level !
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim'']Funny thing is I have seen many wii in stores. If i had wanted to buy one I could already. I just need the price drop.[/QUOTE]If you did then I can't believe you didn't buy them and then sell them on ebay to make more money then you would have by saving your measly $50 on a price drop :|I call BS or just a wierd move on your part for not profiting off of your good luck in actually finding the thing.
I've said in a previous thread and it still goes now: A Pulitzer Prise for the news hound who uncovers with proof why after 15 months the company is still spending mega dollars on blanketing the airwaves with commercial meant to sell something most can't find in a store.Why ? What sense does that make ? Why keep marketing something the intended consumer can not get ?Just very peculiar to me - you?
[QUOTE=''Blackbond''][QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''Blackbond''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE]The demand is already higher then the supply. Increasing the demand right now does nothing if you can't increase the supply. You won't buy it until its under $200 fine. You won't be buying it until sometime after this Christmas.[/QUOTE] While true it will definately make more people want the system more. I have no intent on buying one until it is cheaper.[/QUOTE]What good does increasing the demaned do for Nintendo right now? Increasing the demand while not increasing the supply just leads to more people piled upon the already frustrated amount of people that can't find a Wii.[/QUOTE] Hey man I agree with what you saying I know it is not going to happen. All this is just wishful hope on my part because I want to play Mario Kart, but I am not going to if the system is still $250. I wish Nintendo would stop being greedy. They already may a huge profit off the sytem sold.
nothing on the price drop front. ure either goig to have to suck it up and pay the 250 or ure going to have to wait for a while. if the wii has another 07 in terms of sales then dont be expecting a price drop before christmas 09 at the earliest. thats my guess anywho.
I use to say that too ( 150.00 ) but after 15 months and I have yet to walk into a store with Wii's on the shelf for 250.00 - I wouldn't look for a price drop anytime soon.Wii better have a price drop b4 Mario Ka ...
Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?
[QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.
I dont think they can justify a price drop until console sales cool down, which has not happened since launch. I do think that they should start dropping the price of their accessories and controllers. It must be a simple thing to make them, a lot simpler than a console anyway
The Wii will not be having a price drop any time soon and there is no rumor of a price drop. The thing sells out. You don't lower the price on something that sells out, its not good business. Don't expect a price drop until they stop selling out.
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE] They should milk the demand for all it's worth at 250, obviously.Consider this: 1 million consoles sold at 250 vs. 200 is an extra 50 million dollars.
[QUOTE=''Blackbond'']The Wii will not be having a price drop any time soon and there is no rumor of a price drop. The thing sells out. You don't lower the price on something that sells out, its not good business. Don't expect a price drop until they stop selling out.[/QUOTE] I know it is just wishful hope because Mario Kart is my game. Only game besides Zelda I am passionate about.
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE]The demand is already higher then the supply. Increasing the demand right now does nothing if you can't increase the supply.
[QUOTE=''Jandurin''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE] They should milk the demand for all it's worth at 250, obviously.Consider this: 1 million consoles sold at 250 vs. 200 is an extra 50 million dollars.[/QUOTE] Oh I know I am just looking out for my own self interests not Nintendo.
[QUOTE=''Blackbond''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE]The demand is already higher then the supply. Increasing the demand right now does nothing if you can't increase the supply. You won't buy it until its under $200 fine. You won't be buying it until sometime after this Christmas.[/QUOTE] While true it will definately make more people want the system more. I have no intent on buying one until it is cheaper.
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim'']Oh I know I am just looking out for my own self interests not Nintendo. [/QUOTE]Well wake up to the business world. I'm 100% sure they aren't going to lower their price to satisfy you while they are still selling out. Maybe you could try finding a pre-owned Wii somewhere?
Funny thing is I have seen many wii in stores. If i had wanted to buy one I could already. I just need the price drop.
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''Blackbond''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE]The demand is already higher then the supply. Increasing the demand right now does nothing if you can't increase the supply. You won't buy it until its under $200 fine. You won't be buying it until sometime after this Christmas.[/QUOTE] While true it will definately make more people want the system more. I have no intent on buying one until it is cheaper.[/QUOTE]What good does increasing the demaned do for Nintendo right now? Increasing the demand while not increasing the supply just leads to more people piled upon the already frustrated amount of people that can't find a Wii.
[QUOTE=''Blackbond''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim'']Oh I know I am just looking out for my own self interests not Nintendo. [/QUOTE]Well wake up to the business world. I'm 100% sure they aren't going to lower their price to satisfy you while they are still selling out. Maybe you could try finding a pre-owned Wii somewhere?[/QUOTE] I am sure those cost more than the retail price.
Why would nintendo listen to you, and make the Wii cheaper (which they can do). The console is selling like crazy with the pricepoint at this level !
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim'']Funny thing is I have seen many wii in stores. If i had wanted to buy one I could already. I just need the price drop.[/QUOTE]If you did then I can't believe you didn't buy them and then sell them on ebay to make more money then you would have by saving your measly $50 on a price drop :|I call BS or just a wierd move on your part for not profiting off of your good luck in actually finding the thing.
I've said in a previous thread and it still goes now: A Pulitzer Prise for the news hound who uncovers with proof why after 15 months the company is still spending mega dollars on blanketing the airwaves with commercial meant to sell something most can't find in a store.Why ? What sense does that make ? Why keep marketing something the intended consumer can not get ?Just very peculiar to me - you?
[QUOTE=''Blackbond''][QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''Blackbond''] [QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''PBSnipes'']Why would Nintendo drop the price a) right before arguably their biggest release of 08 and b) when the Wii is still borderline sold out anyway?[/QUOTE] Because if they think the demand is crazy now wait until they have a price drop. I am not buying the system until it is under $200.[/QUOTE]The demand is already higher then the supply. Increasing the demand right now does nothing if you can't increase the supply. You won't buy it until its under $200 fine. You won't be buying it until sometime after this Christmas.[/QUOTE] While true it will definately make more people want the system more. I have no intent on buying one until it is cheaper.[/QUOTE]What good does increasing the demaned do for Nintendo right now? Increasing the demand while not increasing the supply just leads to more people piled upon the already frustrated amount of people that can't find a Wii.[/QUOTE] Hey man I agree with what you saying I know it is not going to happen. All this is just wishful hope on my part because I want to play Mario Kart, but I am not going to if the system is still $250. I wish Nintendo would stop being greedy. They already may a huge profit off the sytem sold.
nothing on the price drop front. ure either goig to have to suck it up and pay the 250 or ure going to have to wait for a while. if the wii has another 07 in terms of sales then dont be expecting a price drop before christmas 09 at the earliest. thats my guess anywho.
New GTA IV Preview in Computerbild-Spiel ...
The latest issue of German magazine Computerbild-Spiele contains a new five-page preview of GTA 4, eleven new gameplay screenshots, and one new piece of artwork. Thanks to Freezer89 for the info! We will try to obtain a translation/summary as soon as possible. Update from Andy:
New information from the article (thanks, GTAlien for translations and Freezer89 for scans + translations!):
= the greatest game ever created!! :shock:*head explodes*New GTA IV Preview in Computerbild-Spiel ...
Sweet! Keep the info. coming.
I'm waiting for the inevitable Game Informer exclusive magazine article. They usually get the full monty on the game first.
GTA IV will be the main course and the exclusive episodic content are seconds and thirds and so on. I can not wait for the gluttony from this game.
Sweet!!
Good stuff Danish, but GTA4.net beat you to the punch. ;)
Good stuff. I'm going to have to take April 29th off so I can stay home and play GTA IV all day.
the game to define what the 360 and the ps3 can do
gta4 will be the game from teh gods.. do we have any informations about weapons? like how many and if they can be customized?g
New information from the article (thanks, GTAlien for translations and Freezer89 for scans + translations!):
- Pedestrian reactions are more true-to-life than in previous games.
- The WASTED! system is still intact. If you die, you end up at the nearest hospital (minus your weapons) the next morning.
- One button press will get you into a car. A second button press is required to start up the car's engine.
- Niko wears a helmet while riding motorcycles.
- Surroundings are more interactive (bullet holes from gunfire, environment reacting to explosions, etc).
- You can find ''useful things'' in cars that you hijack.
- The game is set in 2008.
= the greatest game ever created!! :shock:*head explodes*New GTA IV Preview in Computerbild-Spiel ...
Sweet! Keep the info. coming.
I'm waiting for the inevitable Game Informer exclusive magazine article. They usually get the full monty on the game first.
GTA IV will be the main course and the exclusive episodic content are seconds and thirds and so on. I can not wait for the gluttony from this game.
Sweet!!
Good stuff Danish, but GTA4.net beat you to the punch. ;)
Good stuff. I'm going to have to take April 29th off so I can stay home and play GTA IV all day.
the game to define what the 360 and the ps3 can do
gta4 will be the game from teh gods.. do we have any informations about weapons? like how many and if they can be customized?
Duke Nukem Forever coming this year, 3D ...
http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2008/02/04/daily17.html
looks like 3D will feature online play
sorry if old, i didnt see any topicsDuke Nukem Forever coming this year, 3D ...
Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA would be great, and it's something I've been hoping for since the Xbox 1 days. Heck, I even got a homebrew port of DN3D to run on my old xbox, but it was annoying because there wasn't any way to invert the aiming. Hopefully they follow up this with releasing Shadow Warrior on there also. I remember playing LAN games of DN3D at the local college library back in the day... so much fun. Duke Nukem Forever coming this year, 3D ...
I can only hope that both of these are true.
[QUOTE=''buuzer0''] Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA would be great, and it's something I've been hoping for since the Xbox 1 days. Heck, I even got a homebrew port of DN3D to run on my old xbox, but it was annoying because there wasn't any way to invert the aiming. Hopefully they follow up this with releasing Shadow Warrior on there also.I remember playing LAN games of DN3D at the local college library back in the day... so much fun. [/QUOTE]ye co op lan games at my friends house were a blasttt!
the strippers :lol: ''wanna dance? wanna dance? wanna dance?''
[QUOTE=''white_sox'']I can only hope that both of these are true.[/QUOTE]i think the DN 3D is more likely than Forever making this year, but lets hope
awesome about duke nukem 3D, ill have to download that when it comes out.i really hope Duke nukem forever comes out this year and doesn't suck.
[QUOTE=''THE_Rob_Himself''][QUOTE=''buuzer0''] Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA would be great, and it's something I've been hoping for since the Xbox 1 days. Heck, I even got a homebrew port of DN3D to run on my old xbox, but it was annoying because there wasn't any way to invert the aiming. Hopefully they follow up this with releasing Shadow Warrior on there also.I remember playing LAN games of DN3D at the local college library back in the day... so much fun. [/QUOTE]ye co op lan games at my friends house were a blasttt!
the strippers :lol: ''wanna dance? wanna dance? wanna dance?''[/QUOTE] I remember on the Red Light District stage, sometimes while playing deathmatch you'd catch one of your opponents space-barring the strippers. Letting loose with a couple RPG's or Pipe Bombs resulted in a hilarious bloody mess!
[QUOTE=''buuzer0''][QUOTE=''THE_Rob_Himself''][QUOTE=''buuzer0''] Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA would be great, and it's something I've been hoping for since the Xbox 1 days. Heck, I even got a homebrew port of DN3D to run on my old xbox, but it was annoying because there wasn't any way to invert the aiming. Hopefully they follow up this with releasing Shadow Warrior on there also.I remember playing LAN games of DN3D at the local college library back in the day... so much fun. [/QUOTE]ye co op lan games at my friends house were a blasttt!
the strippers :lol: ''wanna dance? wanna dance? wanna dance?''[/QUOTE] I remember on the Red Light District stage, sometimes while playing deathmatch you'd catch one of your opponents space-barring the strippers. Letting loose with a couple RPG's or Pipe Bombs resulted in a hilarious bloody mess![/QUOTE]
yea, not to mention the stripper exploded when you gave it too much money :P i loved that game 8)
[QUOTE=''beast667''] awesome about duke nukem 3D, ill have to download that when it comes out.i really hope Duke nukem forever comes out this year and doesn't suck.[/QUOTE]That'd be something, if it sucked that is. :lol:
I hope not though!
[QUOTE=''THE_Rob_Himself'']
yea, not to mention the stripper exploded when you gave it too much money :P i loved that game 8)[/QUOTE] :lol:I love how you refer to the stripper as an ''it''.100% objectification FTW!!! :D
[QUOTE=''buuzer0''][QUOTE=''THE_Rob_Himself'']
yea, not to mention the stripper exploded when you gave it too much money :P i loved that game 8)[/QUOTE] :lol:I love how you refer to the stripper as an ''it''.100% objectification FTW!!! :D[/QUOTE]
are I winnar? :oops:
Here's hoping 3D will be coming to Wiiware.
looks like 3D will feature online play
sorry if old, i didnt see any topicsDuke Nukem Forever coming this year, 3D ...
Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA would be great, and it's something I've been hoping for since the Xbox 1 days. Heck, I even got a homebrew port of DN3D to run on my old xbox, but it was annoying because there wasn't any way to invert the aiming. Hopefully they follow up this with releasing Shadow Warrior on there also. I remember playing LAN games of DN3D at the local college library back in the day... so much fun. Duke Nukem Forever coming this year, 3D ...
I can only hope that both of these are true.
[QUOTE=''buuzer0''] Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA would be great, and it's something I've been hoping for since the Xbox 1 days. Heck, I even got a homebrew port of DN3D to run on my old xbox, but it was annoying because there wasn't any way to invert the aiming. Hopefully they follow up this with releasing Shadow Warrior on there also.I remember playing LAN games of DN3D at the local college library back in the day... so much fun. [/QUOTE]ye co op lan games at my friends house were a blasttt!
the strippers :lol: ''wanna dance? wanna dance? wanna dance?''
[QUOTE=''white_sox'']I can only hope that both of these are true.[/QUOTE]i think the DN 3D is more likely than Forever making this year, but lets hope
awesome about duke nukem 3D, ill have to download that when it comes out.i really hope Duke nukem forever comes out this year and doesn't suck.
[QUOTE=''THE_Rob_Himself''][QUOTE=''buuzer0''] Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA would be great, and it's something I've been hoping for since the Xbox 1 days. Heck, I even got a homebrew port of DN3D to run on my old xbox, but it was annoying because there wasn't any way to invert the aiming. Hopefully they follow up this with releasing Shadow Warrior on there also.I remember playing LAN games of DN3D at the local college library back in the day... so much fun. [/QUOTE]ye co op lan games at my friends house were a blasttt!
the strippers :lol: ''wanna dance? wanna dance? wanna dance?''[/QUOTE] I remember on the Red Light District stage, sometimes while playing deathmatch you'd catch one of your opponents space-barring the strippers. Letting loose with a couple RPG's or Pipe Bombs resulted in a hilarious bloody mess!
[QUOTE=''buuzer0''][QUOTE=''THE_Rob_Himself''][QUOTE=''buuzer0''] Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA would be great, and it's something I've been hoping for since the Xbox 1 days. Heck, I even got a homebrew port of DN3D to run on my old xbox, but it was annoying because there wasn't any way to invert the aiming. Hopefully they follow up this with releasing Shadow Warrior on there also.I remember playing LAN games of DN3D at the local college library back in the day... so much fun. [/QUOTE]ye co op lan games at my friends house were a blasttt!
the strippers :lol: ''wanna dance? wanna dance? wanna dance?''[/QUOTE] I remember on the Red Light District stage, sometimes while playing deathmatch you'd catch one of your opponents space-barring the strippers. Letting loose with a couple RPG's or Pipe Bombs resulted in a hilarious bloody mess![/QUOTE]
yea, not to mention the stripper exploded when you gave it too much money :P i loved that game 8)
[QUOTE=''beast667''] awesome about duke nukem 3D, ill have to download that when it comes out.i really hope Duke nukem forever comes out this year and doesn't suck.[/QUOTE]That'd be something, if it sucked that is. :lol:
I hope not though!
[QUOTE=''THE_Rob_Himself'']
yea, not to mention the stripper exploded when you gave it too much money :P i loved that game 8)[/QUOTE] :lol:I love how you refer to the stripper as an ''it''.100% objectification FTW!!! :D
[QUOTE=''buuzer0''][QUOTE=''THE_Rob_Himself'']
yea, not to mention the stripper exploded when you gave it too much money :P i loved that game 8)[/QUOTE] :lol:I love how you refer to the stripper as an ''it''.100% objectification FTW!!! :D[/QUOTE]
are I winnar? :oops:
Here's hoping 3D will be coming to Wiiware.
have the playstation 3 and xbox 360 rea ...
im thinking uncharted for the ps3 and mass effect for the 360 at the moment are the best looking console games, would you agree?this is only opinion so dont flame me to death..uncharted and mass effect were both made by highly talented developers, they both tried to push the graphical power of both consoles as far as possibleone thing i noticed about both games is that there is pop up textures. its pushing the processing power, loading the textures of every individual tiny piece of scenery, sound, physics and alsorts is happening and has to be processedone example, gears of war is beautiful but occasional pop up textures and occasional frame rate issues, heavenly sword, the detail in the faces are excellent, but the hair looks stuck on.games are being delayed time after time, there are problems developing games, making textures crisp, making frame rates good, high def. so on.alan wake has been delayed time after time, so too has gran tourismo 5, both hugely impressive in the graphical department.making games for the pc must be easier, as they can keep upgrading to make the games look and run better, using the latest processors and graphics cards, and increasing virtual memory as they please.
this is only my opinion, i think graphics may get a tiny bit better but nothing huge. i expect the playstation 3 to maybe push the graphics a tiny bit futher than the 360 but yet nothing major.your thoughts?have the playstation 3 and xbox 360 rea ...
Didn't the developers of uncharted say something like it didnt even come close to using up all the ps3s power?have the playstation 3 and xbox 360 rea ...
Uncharted was just scratching the surface of what the PS3 is capable of. You won't see the PS3's true power until God of War III is released. The 360 may also seem like it's been maxed out, but history has proven that the best looking games don't come until at least 2-3 years into the consoles life.
im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]how many games in sony's history looked good during the first couple of years? very few like at Gow. Comes out close to the end of ps2 life.
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]how many games in sony's history looked good during the first couple of years? very few like at Gow. Comes out close to the end of ps2 life.
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.
Games that will barely begin development this year and next will easily look beter than ''launch'' time titlesFFXIII should blow everything out now, out of the water. FarCry2 should raise the bar for a while. Theres plenty that will always keep raising the bar
[QUOTE=''ff7isnumbaone''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]how many games in sony's history looked good during the first couple of years? very few like at Gow. Comes out close to the end of ps2 life.[/QUOTE]these are completely differant consoles, there is big competition,devs have to push games to teh max
[QUOTE=''DisPimpin''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.[/QUOTE]but how much better will gears 2 look to gears? how much better does metal gear look to uncharted? the textures in uncharted are better in my opinion
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238''] [QUOTE=''DisPimpin''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.[/QUOTE]but how much better will gears 2 look to gears? how much better does metal gear look to uncharted? the textures in uncharted are better in my opinion[/QUOTE]You're saying that because these are the best looking console games to ever be released. Trust me, it will get better.
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238''] [QUOTE=''DisPimpin''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.[/QUOTE]but how much better will gears 2 look to gears? how much better does metal gear look to uncharted? the textures in uncharted are better in my opinion[/QUOTE]mgs4 looks absolutley horrible compared to uncharted.....well mgs4 is horrible looking compared to anything lol
[QUOTE=''mingo123''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238''] [QUOTE=''DisPimpin''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.[/QUOTE]but how much better will gears 2 look to gears? how much better does metal gear look to uncharted? the textures in uncharted are better in my opinion[/QUOTE]mgs4 looks absolutley horrible compared to uncharted.....well mgs4 is horrible looking compared to anything lol[/QUOTE]ok you made me look silly in the other thread but man your really acting like a fanboy now. i wish you had a ps 3 so you can download the hd trailer of mgs 4 on a 52'' hd screen.
i actually think that uncharted is a very good looking game and a great game overall ( i loved it and would say its my favorite ps3 game) but im not sure if its really that great looking. something about it just is a little off. im sure not many people will agree but i think assassins creed is absolutely gorgeous. playing it on a 42'' 1080p lcd in 1080p is awesome. mass effect loses alot of points for framerate and pop in problems. CoD4 is definitely up there, but i still think that Gears is probably still the best looking game. hopefully ninja gaiden 2 blows us all away. i think re5 will too.
The Playstation 3 will hit it's graphical peak around the time the next Xbox rolls around. :lol:
No systems are maxed out. Developers will always find ways to squeeze more out of systems.
Both haven't.
I think both haven't peaked yet. I do think the 360 is much nearer its peak than the PS3 though. The reason for this is the system architecture. The 360 has an architecture closely resembling pc architecture. That means programmers are used to working with it and will already know how to optimise performance. The PS3 architecture is completely different. People shouldn't underestimate how different programming for the PS3 is from doing so for the Pc or 360. Programmers have to completely forget everything they ever learned about how to program and adopt a complete new way of thinking. I personally feel that they only ar starting to get the hang of this. Killzone 2 in fact is more than a game. It got its very large budget in order to make the programmers explore how programming for the cell type architecture is done. Expect Sony to have obtained much more knowledge in this field after the completion of the KZ2 project. This knowledge, which of course will be readily shared with other devs working on PS3 projects, will result in a significant improvement in support for devs and thus of games. Another important aspect is the fact that insiders generally see the cell type architecture as the future of pc's as well. Already the first server pc's using this technology have hit the market. They are quite expensive though. When this technology will be incorporated in pc's more, we'll see programmers start to get a more natural feeling for programmnig for this type of architecture. This will also have its influence on the quality of projects for PS3.
X360 probably hasn't topped out, but it's definetly hit a road block because nothing looks better than Gears. PS3 still has room left games keep getting better and better on the system.
yes both of them.
this is only my opinion, i think graphics may get a tiny bit better but nothing huge. i expect the playstation 3 to maybe push the graphics a tiny bit futher than the 360 but yet nothing major.your thoughts?have the playstation 3 and xbox 360 rea ...
Didn't the developers of uncharted say something like it didnt even come close to using up all the ps3s power?have the playstation 3 and xbox 360 rea ...
Uncharted was just scratching the surface of what the PS3 is capable of. You won't see the PS3's true power until God of War III is released. The 360 may also seem like it's been maxed out, but history has proven that the best looking games don't come until at least 2-3 years into the consoles life.
im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]how many games in sony's history looked good during the first couple of years? very few like at Gow. Comes out close to the end of ps2 life.
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]how many games in sony's history looked good during the first couple of years? very few like at Gow. Comes out close to the end of ps2 life.
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.
Games that will barely begin development this year and next will easily look beter than ''launch'' time titlesFFXIII should blow everything out now, out of the water. FarCry2 should raise the bar for a while. Theres plenty that will always keep raising the bar
[QUOTE=''ff7isnumbaone''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]how many games in sony's history looked good during the first couple of years? very few like at Gow. Comes out close to the end of ps2 life.[/QUOTE]these are completely differant consoles, there is big competition,devs have to push games to teh max
[QUOTE=''DisPimpin''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.[/QUOTE]but how much better will gears 2 look to gears? how much better does metal gear look to uncharted? the textures in uncharted are better in my opinion
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238''] [QUOTE=''DisPimpin''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.[/QUOTE]but how much better will gears 2 look to gears? how much better does metal gear look to uncharted? the textures in uncharted are better in my opinion[/QUOTE]You're saying that because these are the best looking console games to ever be released. Trust me, it will get better.
[QUOTE=''scottiescott238''] [QUOTE=''DisPimpin''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.[/QUOTE]but how much better will gears 2 look to gears? how much better does metal gear look to uncharted? the textures in uncharted are better in my opinion[/QUOTE]mgs4 looks absolutley horrible compared to uncharted.....well mgs4 is horrible looking compared to anything lol
[QUOTE=''mingo123''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238''] [QUOTE=''DisPimpin''][QUOTE=''scottiescott238'']im not going to disagree with you but what games to come out this year on the ps3 look better than uncharted? what games looks better than mass effect or gears on the 360. alan wake maybe but nothing major[/QUOTE]Metal Gear looks better than Uncharted imo, and I believe that Gears 2 will look better than the first and so will the next Mass Effect. There is a natural progression in graphics with devs learning the ins and outs of the hardware. I really think, for the PS3 at least, it will take a 1st party title like a God of War to really show the world that all the hype they were giving this machine wasn't just talk.[/QUOTE]but how much better will gears 2 look to gears? how much better does metal gear look to uncharted? the textures in uncharted are better in my opinion[/QUOTE]mgs4 looks absolutley horrible compared to uncharted.....well mgs4 is horrible looking compared to anything lol[/QUOTE]ok you made me look silly in the other thread but man your really acting like a fanboy now. i wish you had a ps 3 so you can download the hd trailer of mgs 4 on a 52'' hd screen.
i actually think that uncharted is a very good looking game and a great game overall ( i loved it and would say its my favorite ps3 game) but im not sure if its really that great looking. something about it just is a little off. im sure not many people will agree but i think assassins creed is absolutely gorgeous. playing it on a 42'' 1080p lcd in 1080p is awesome. mass effect loses alot of points for framerate and pop in problems. CoD4 is definitely up there, but i still think that Gears is probably still the best looking game. hopefully ninja gaiden 2 blows us all away. i think re5 will too.
The Playstation 3 will hit it's graphical peak around the time the next Xbox rolls around. :lol:
No systems are maxed out. Developers will always find ways to squeeze more out of systems.
Both haven't.
I think both haven't peaked yet. I do think the 360 is much nearer its peak than the PS3 though. The reason for this is the system architecture. The 360 has an architecture closely resembling pc architecture. That means programmers are used to working with it and will already know how to optimise performance. The PS3 architecture is completely different. People shouldn't underestimate how different programming for the PS3 is from doing so for the Pc or 360. Programmers have to completely forget everything they ever learned about how to program and adopt a complete new way of thinking. I personally feel that they only ar starting to get the hang of this. Killzone 2 in fact is more than a game. It got its very large budget in order to make the programmers explore how programming for the cell type architecture is done. Expect Sony to have obtained much more knowledge in this field after the completion of the KZ2 project. This knowledge, which of course will be readily shared with other devs working on PS3 projects, will result in a significant improvement in support for devs and thus of games. Another important aspect is the fact that insiders generally see the cell type architecture as the future of pc's as well. Already the first server pc's using this technology have hit the market. They are quite expensive though. When this technology will be incorporated in pc's more, we'll see programmers start to get a more natural feeling for programmnig for this type of architecture. This will also have its influence on the quality of projects for PS3.
X360 probably hasn't topped out, but it's definetly hit a road block because nothing looks better than Gears. PS3 still has room left games keep getting better and better on the system.
yes both of them.
MS should buy SONY instead of YAHOO :o ! ...
:o :oAn article by Esquire looks at the option of Microsoft taking over Sony to help sort out each others console woes. They say that if MS wants to firm up its videogame operation it could do with Sony's foot in the Japanese market and Sony's expertise in reliable hardware. Also Sony could so with the benefits of Microsoft's interfaces and they could split the cost on a next-gen system. Its a crazy but interesting idea.''A few compelling reasons to do so:
1. Microsoft's Xbox 360 has the most atrocious hardware in consumer electronics history. It's so bad, the company had to extend 360 warranties to three years, spending a billion dollars in the process, just to fix systems that keep breaking on a whim. I've had four systems break in only three years. They're becoming known as a lemon-maker with great games. Meanwhile, Sony makes great hardware but...
2. Sony has the worst software interface in the business. Compared to the Wii, Sony's online friend management and gameplay are an utter mystery, requiring endless navigation of its Byzantine menu structure. Sure, buried inside the PS3 are plenty of amazing ''potential technology'' features -- like the ability to install Linux, or its wireless connectivity with the PSP -- but who cares? No one needs these features to play games. Even worse, developers can't seem to make games for the PS3, while the 360's development toolkit is a relative stroll in the park.
3. Cost-cutting. The PS3 still costs more to make than it does on store shelves, which has led to $841 million operating loss for Sony's games division as of the end of October 2007. Until it pulls a profit, it's an albatross for all of Sony. Microsoft feels like it's finally gaining ground on Sony, with a library of titles that are superior, and an online interface that is miles better -- not to mention a larger installed base of sales in the U.S -- but they blew a billion dollars to extend the faulty system's warranty to three years. Splitting the cost on a next-gen system might be a wise idea.
4. Big in Japan (kinda). Nintendo dominates in Asia, but at least the PS3 sold nearly two million systems... as opposed to the 360, which has yet to break a million units in Asia after three years on the market. Sony can help Microsoft understand that whole ''Asia'' thing a lot better. The world gaming market is growing to China, Korea, India -- places where Sony still has clout.
5. And now, for the biggest reason of all: maybe, with two brains put together, they can help each other learn what ''fun'' means . ''FUll article![]()
MS should buy SONY instead of YAHOO :o ! ...
if anyone thinks that deal would be bad for gaming, they are not a gamer.
i would be extremely happy if that ever happened, although i dont think it will.MS should buy SONY instead of YAHOO :o ! ...
2 words: KICK ASS.
Microsoft makes like half a billion dollars off its Xbox program.They make $16 billion off their software.They don't give a rat's ass about console gaming. That's why Bill Gates has only showed up to E3 ONCE.
maybe then Microsoft can build some decent hardware
This is so far in the land of hypothetical. Sony would cost a lot more than yahoo. People need to remeber that sony corp is a massive conglomerate with subsidiaries in banking, film, music, electronics...etc. Gaming is just one part of their business. I think MS would have a nightmare just managing all the overhead and added costs associated with taking over such a huge company.
MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII.
[QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.
Hey, I know MC is bigger than sony, but that doesnt mean it can buy it, thats like saying sony could buy nintendo.
[QUOTE=''Nagidar''][QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE]yeah true..MS will bid around 50 billion if they want sony..
Wow, did someone from System Wars write that article? They need to come back to Earth.
[QUOTE=''kirk4ever''][QUOTE=''Nagidar''][QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE]yeah true..MS will bid around 50 billion if they want sony..[/QUOTE]Thats only if sony share holders want to sell the company. If not, MS is sol.
lol more like sony should buy microsoft and bury the 360 once and for all...
[QUOTE=''Nagidar''][QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE]MS doesn't care about hardware. Why would they buy Sony? Do you think Sony would allow MS to buy it? That's like saying, Google can buy Sega because Google is worth more. :S
[QUOTE=''Nagidar''] [QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE] actually Sony make more money the MS..last year sony made $76.201 billion compared to MicroSofts $51.12 billion :) and thats just the US
I can't believe some people think this is a good idea.
[QUOTE=''madsmokey''] lol more like sony should buy microsoft and bury the 360 once and for all...[/QUOTE] Yea, that made alot od sense. :roll:
[QUOTE=''niall077''][QUOTE=''Nagidar''] [QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE] actually Sony make more money the MS..last year sony made $76.201 billion billion compared to MicroSofts $51.12 billion :) and thats just the US [/QUOTE]Link?
sony must be worth more than 45 billion?
[QUOTE=''niall077''][QUOTE=''Nagidar''] [QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE]MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE] actually Sony make more money the MS..last year song made $76.201 billion billion compared to MicroSofts $51.12 billion :) and thats just the US [/QUOTE]well, there you go.
1. Microsoft's Xbox 360 has the most atrocious hardware in consumer electronics history. It's so bad, the company had to extend 360 warranties to three years, spending a billion dollars in the process, just to fix systems that keep breaking on a whim. I've had four systems break in only three years. They're becoming known as a lemon-maker with great games. Meanwhile, Sony makes great hardware but...
2. Sony has the worst software interface in the business. Compared to the Wii, Sony's online friend management and gameplay are an utter mystery, requiring endless navigation of its Byzantine menu structure. Sure, buried inside the PS3 are plenty of amazing ''potential technology'' features -- like the ability to install Linux, or its wireless connectivity with the PSP -- but who cares? No one needs these features to play games. Even worse, developers can't seem to make games for the PS3, while the 360's development toolkit is a relative stroll in the park.
3. Cost-cutting. The PS3 still costs more to make than it does on store shelves, which has led to $841 million operating loss for Sony's games division as of the end of October 2007. Until it pulls a profit, it's an albatross for all of Sony. Microsoft feels like it's finally gaining ground on Sony, with a library of titles that are superior, and an online interface that is miles better -- not to mention a larger installed base of sales in the U.S -- but they blew a billion dollars to extend the faulty system's warranty to three years. Splitting the cost on a next-gen system might be a wise idea.
4. Big in Japan (kinda). Nintendo dominates in Asia, but at least the PS3 sold nearly two million systems... as opposed to the 360, which has yet to break a million units in Asia after three years on the market. Sony can help Microsoft understand that whole ''Asia'' thing a lot better. The world gaming market is growing to China, Korea, India -- places where Sony still has clout.
5. And now, for the biggest reason of all: maybe, with two brains put together, they can help each other learn what ''fun'' means . ''FUll article
if anyone thinks that deal would be bad for gaming, they are not a gamer.
i would be extremely happy if that ever happened, although i dont think it will.MS should buy SONY instead of YAHOO :o ! ...
2 words: KICK ASS.
Microsoft makes like half a billion dollars off its Xbox program.They make $16 billion off their software.They don't give a rat's ass about console gaming. That's why Bill Gates has only showed up to E3 ONCE.
maybe then Microsoft can build some decent hardware
This is so far in the land of hypothetical. Sony would cost a lot more than yahoo. People need to remeber that sony corp is a massive conglomerate with subsidiaries in banking, film, music, electronics...etc. Gaming is just one part of their business. I think MS would have a nightmare just managing all the overhead and added costs associated with taking over such a huge company.
MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII.
[QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.
Hey, I know MC is bigger than sony, but that doesnt mean it can buy it, thats like saying sony could buy nintendo.
[QUOTE=''Nagidar''][QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE]yeah true..MS will bid around 50 billion if they want sony..
Wow, did someone from System Wars write that article? They need to come back to Earth.
[QUOTE=''kirk4ever''][QUOTE=''Nagidar''][QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE]yeah true..MS will bid around 50 billion if they want sony..[/QUOTE]Thats only if sony share holders want to sell the company. If not, MS is sol.
lol more like sony should buy microsoft and bury the 360 once and for all...
[QUOTE=''Nagidar''][QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE]MS doesn't care about hardware. Why would they buy Sony? Do you think Sony would allow MS to buy it? That's like saying, Google can buy Sega because Google is worth more. :S
[QUOTE=''Nagidar''] [QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE] actually Sony make more money the MS..last year sony made $76.201 billion compared to MicroSofts $51.12 billion :) and thats just the US
I can't believe some people think this is a good idea.
[QUOTE=''madsmokey''] lol more like sony should buy microsoft and bury the 360 once and for all...[/QUOTE] Yea, that made alot od sense. :roll:
[QUOTE=''niall077''][QUOTE=''Nagidar''] [QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE] MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE] actually Sony make more money the MS..last year sony made $76.201 billion billion compared to MicroSofts $51.12 billion :) and thats just the US [/QUOTE]Link?
sony must be worth more than 45 billion?
[QUOTE=''niall077''][QUOTE=''Nagidar''] [QUOTE=''dream431ca'']MS cannot afford Sony. Plus the Japanese would not allow it. Sony is a life saver in Japan after WWII. [/QUOTE]MS is worth 260 Billion Dollars, SONY is around 45 Billion, I wouldn't be surprised is MS could buy SONY.[/QUOTE] actually Sony make more money the MS..last year song made $76.201 billion billion compared to MicroSofts $51.12 billion :) and thats just the US [/QUOTE]well, there you go.
why nintendo should buy the xbox divisio ...
1. the 3rd party problem would be solved for the wii2/ 1st party would be better for the 7202. the hardware issues woulden't be as widespead with nintendos track record3. grafics would be up to par next gen and innovation would remain4. less minigame compalations on wii2 and more games under M for 7205. Halo comalation with wiimote controls = winwhy nintendo should buy the xbox divisio ...
actually Microsoft should buy Nintendo so MS provides all the money for teh technology (graphics and stuff) and Nintendo focuses on innovation....and the best system ever will be madewhy nintendo should buy the xbox divisio ...
Just buy a Wii and 360. And fix your sig lol
This is just like saying, hey an elephant and a gorilla hybrid would be cool.. well no duh, but its not gonna happen.
why microsoft? sony and nintendo is a better pair
[QUOTE=''mingo123''] actually Microsoft should buy Nintendo so MS provides all the money for teh technology (graphics and stuff) and Nintendo focuses on innovation....and the best system ever will be made[/QUOTE]Agreed.
For both companies it would be too much money for something that wouldn't neccesarily work.
Wii2??There was a nintendo (self titled system), super nintendo (super self title), nintendo 64(self titled 64), game cube, then wii (am i missing any?)Theres no 2s in there. What makes you think they are coming out with a wii2? Or even sticking with the same theme?
[QUOTE=''FancyKetchup25'']This is just like saying, hey an elephant and a gorilla hybrid would be cool.. well no duh, but its not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]or even better a pig and an elephant![]()
[QUOTE=''thageneral3''] Wii2??There was a nintendo (self titled system), super nintendo (super self title), nintendo 64(self titled 64), game cube, then wii (am i missing any?)Theres no 2s in there. What makes you think they are coming out with a wii2? Or even sticking with the same theme?[/QUOTE] dude calm down, its just what people say when they talk about the wii sucsessor, same way 720 is doutful...only ps4 is likely
Nintendo and Sony should get together like they did in 1990. If Nintendo doesn't stab Sony in the back afterwards, they could dominate the console market. But that's not gonna happen.
I think MS should buy Nokia so they can make a N-Gage360. Could you imagine? Portable and undependable.
[QUOTE=''dream431ca'']Nintendo and Sony should get together like they did in 1990. If Nintendo doesn't stab Sony in the back afterwards, they could dominate the console market. But that's not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]Nintendo only did that because they didn't trust Sony, since Sony wanted all the Software rights for the games that Nintendo made on that system so why should Nintendo go with Sony if that was the case.
nintendos doesnt have tha money to buy the xbox division
[QUOTE=''Punjabiking101''] nintendos doesnt have tha money to buy the xbox division [/QUOTE] coughwii%26dscough
It will never happen... why even bring it up?
[QUOTE=''dream431ca'']Nintendo and Sony should get together like they did in 1990. If Nintendo doesn't stab Sony in the back afterwards, they could dominate the console market. But that's not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]That wont happen, not anytime soon.
[QUOTE=''mingo123'']actually Microsoft should buy Nintendo so MS provides all the money for teh technology (graphics and stuff) and Nintendo focuses on innovation....and the best system ever will be made[/QUOTE]It would be a useless buy because Nintendo is always the most technological savvy of the three.The lack of power on the Wii was a choice.
[QUOTE=''Punjabiking101'']nintendos doesnt have tha money to buy the xbox division [/QUOTE]They could probably buy the whole thing.
[QUOTE=''Willy105''][QUOTE=''mingo123'']actually Microsoft should buy Nintendo so MS provides all the money for teh technology (graphics and stuff) and Nintendo focuses on innovation....and the best system ever will be made[/QUOTE]It would be a useless buy because Nintendo is always the most technological savvy of the three.The lack of power on the Wii was a choice.[/QUOTE]It was a desperate gamble that has actually paid off.g
actually Microsoft should buy Nintendo so MS provides all the money for teh technology (graphics and stuff) and Nintendo focuses on innovation....and the best system ever will be madewhy nintendo should buy the xbox divisio ...
Just buy a Wii and 360. And fix your sig lol
This is just like saying, hey an elephant and a gorilla hybrid would be cool.. well no duh, but its not gonna happen.
why microsoft? sony and nintendo is a better pair
[QUOTE=''mingo123''] actually Microsoft should buy Nintendo so MS provides all the money for teh technology (graphics and stuff) and Nintendo focuses on innovation....and the best system ever will be made[/QUOTE]Agreed.
For both companies it would be too much money for something that wouldn't neccesarily work.
Wii2??There was a nintendo (self titled system), super nintendo (super self title), nintendo 64(self titled 64), game cube, then wii (am i missing any?)Theres no 2s in there. What makes you think they are coming out with a wii2? Or even sticking with the same theme?
[QUOTE=''FancyKetchup25'']This is just like saying, hey an elephant and a gorilla hybrid would be cool.. well no duh, but its not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]or even better a pig and an elephant
[QUOTE=''thageneral3''] Wii2??There was a nintendo (self titled system), super nintendo (super self title), nintendo 64(self titled 64), game cube, then wii (am i missing any?)Theres no 2s in there. What makes you think they are coming out with a wii2? Or even sticking with the same theme?[/QUOTE] dude calm down, its just what people say when they talk about the wii sucsessor, same way 720 is doutful...only ps4 is likely
Nintendo and Sony should get together like they did in 1990. If Nintendo doesn't stab Sony in the back afterwards, they could dominate the console market. But that's not gonna happen.
I think MS should buy Nokia so they can make a N-Gage360. Could you imagine? Portable and undependable.
[QUOTE=''dream431ca'']Nintendo and Sony should get together like they did in 1990. If Nintendo doesn't stab Sony in the back afterwards, they could dominate the console market. But that's not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]Nintendo only did that because they didn't trust Sony, since Sony wanted all the Software rights for the games that Nintendo made on that system so why should Nintendo go with Sony if that was the case.
nintendos doesnt have tha money to buy the xbox division
[QUOTE=''Punjabiking101''] nintendos doesnt have tha money to buy the xbox division [/QUOTE] coughwii%26dscough
It will never happen... why even bring it up?
[QUOTE=''dream431ca'']Nintendo and Sony should get together like they did in 1990. If Nintendo doesn't stab Sony in the back afterwards, they could dominate the console market. But that's not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]That wont happen, not anytime soon.
[QUOTE=''mingo123'']actually Microsoft should buy Nintendo so MS provides all the money for teh technology (graphics and stuff) and Nintendo focuses on innovation....and the best system ever will be made[/QUOTE]It would be a useless buy because Nintendo is always the most technological savvy of the three.The lack of power on the Wii was a choice.
[QUOTE=''Punjabiking101'']nintendos doesnt have tha money to buy the xbox division [/QUOTE]They could probably buy the whole thing.
[QUOTE=''Willy105''][QUOTE=''mingo123'']actually Microsoft should buy Nintendo so MS provides all the money for teh technology (graphics and stuff) and Nintendo focuses on innovation....and the best system ever will be made[/QUOTE]It would be a useless buy because Nintendo is always the most technological savvy of the three.The lack of power on the Wii was a choice.[/QUOTE]It was a desperate gamble that has actually paid off.
No system has reached its zenith so stop ...
it gets pretty annoying hearng that all the time, anyone agree.No system has reached its zenith so stop ...
agreed...no system, not even the NES has ever seen its peak yet, and if we do, it sure as hell woun't be in the 2nd/3rd year of a consoles lifeNo system has reached its zenith so stop ...
Well maybe not consoles but we've probably already seen the highest rated game this generation.
The ps3 reached its peak. Sony isn't even developing engines or tools for the thing anymore because of teh cell. They want Toshiba to develop games for them and do all of the cell research , and if anyone knows anything about Toshiba .... they will realise they have little experience in the gaming industry.
Well all the last gen systems have reached there peaks long ago, but the next gen systems, are just starting.
You could probably argue that Wii games aren't going to get much better looking than SMG/SSBB, at least not from a technical standpoint.
agreed...no system, not even the NES has ever seen its peak yet, and if we do, it sure as hell woun't be in the 2nd/3rd year of a consoles lifeNo system has reached its zenith so stop ...
Well maybe not consoles but we've probably already seen the highest rated game this generation.
The ps3 reached its peak. Sony isn't even developing engines or tools for the thing anymore because of teh cell. They want Toshiba to develop games for them and do all of the cell research , and if anyone knows anything about Toshiba .... they will realise they have little experience in the gaming industry.
Well all the last gen systems have reached there peaks long ago, but the next gen systems, are just starting.
You could probably argue that Wii games aren't going to get much better looking than SMG/SSBB, at least not from a technical standpoint.
Bungie's next game 'totally different' f ...
In its latest podcast, Halo developer Bungie has revealed that its next game will be ''something totally different'' from what the developer's fans know the studio for.Speaking on the podcast with content manager Frank O'Connor, lead designer Christian Allen and writer Luke Smith, Brian Jarrard, director of franchise and community affairs revealed that from what he's seen of the new, super-secret game, it's ''pretty cool''.Speculation has been rife on what Bungie, acclaimed developer of the blockbuster Halo series, will do next, now that Halo 3 has been out for a number of months and the studio has gained independence from ex-parent company Microsoft.Unfortunately, Jarrard remained tight-lipped, saying the game was ''far far too early'' to talk about. He did, however, say that ''eventually... we'll have a lot of cool things to start talking about.''He said: ''It's tough for us to really get into the stuff our listeners would love to hear about which is what we're currently working on.''We can say... is sort of Bungie's next game that isn't Halo 3 expansion, DLC type stuff, this would be something totally different from Bungie.''(It's)far far too early in its state to even say more than that at this point, but eventually I'm sure we'll have a lot of cool things to start talking about.''I can just say that some of the stuff that I've seen is pretty cool.''What do you think Bungie's next game will be? Bungie's next game 'totally different' f ...
Halo KartBungie's next game 'totally different' f ...
Halo Golf
[QUOTE=''danishkhan'']What do you think Bungie's next game will be? [/QUOTE]Halo Kitty Island Adventure
ohh, ohh, will it be about a supersolder that explores some ruins of an ainchent civilazation out in space, fighting an alien race along the way and relecing an aincent menace that threatens the univerces very existance! O_O oh wait....
halo party
Whatever it is, Im looking forward to it.
Well, right now the guys at Bungie are working on Halo 3 DLC, Halo: Chronicles with Wingnut Interactive, and then the new IP.I would guess the new IP will be something like Oni, which was a game Bungie West really enjoyed making.
Oni 2
Gnop: revolutions.
I want a new Marathon game.
$10 says its a FPS
I need to listen to something at work. Is there a link to this podcast? That'd be great.Is it going to be World of Halocraft? (I was going to use Halo Party, but a few people beat me to it)
[QUOTE=''JLF1'']I want a new Marathon game.[/QUOTE]Marathon: Combat Revolved lol
Grand Theft Halo
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod''] I need to listen to something at work. Is there a link to this podcast? That'd be great.Is it going to be World of Halocraft? (I was going to use Halo Party, but a few people beat me to it)[/QUOTE]listen to music....nothing better then that
Dr. Chief
[QUOTE=''JLF1'']I want a new Marathon game.[/QUOTE]Here you go. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod''] I need to listen to something at work. Is there a link to this podcast? That'd be great.[/QUOTE] Sure there are podcasts, what do you want to listen to?
Paper Halo
Halo KartBungie's next game 'totally different' f ...
Halo Golf
[QUOTE=''danishkhan'']What do you think Bungie's next game will be? [/QUOTE]Halo Kitty Island Adventure
ohh, ohh, will it be about a supersolder that explores some ruins of an ainchent civilazation out in space, fighting an alien race along the way and relecing an aincent menace that threatens the univerces very existance! O_O oh wait....
halo party
Whatever it is, Im looking forward to it.
Well, right now the guys at Bungie are working on Halo 3 DLC, Halo: Chronicles with Wingnut Interactive, and then the new IP.I would guess the new IP will be something like Oni, which was a game Bungie West really enjoyed making.
Oni 2
Gnop: revolutions.
I want a new Marathon game.
$10 says its a FPS
I need to listen to something at work. Is there a link to this podcast? That'd be great.Is it going to be World of Halocraft? (I was going to use Halo Party, but a few people beat me to it)
[QUOTE=''JLF1'']I want a new Marathon game.[/QUOTE]Marathon: Combat Revolved lol
Grand Theft Halo
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod''] I need to listen to something at work. Is there a link to this podcast? That'd be great.Is it going to be World of Halocraft? (I was going to use Halo Party, but a few people beat me to it)[/QUOTE]listen to music....nothing better then that
Dr. Chief
[QUOTE=''JLF1'']I want a new Marathon game.[/QUOTE]Here you go. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod''] I need to listen to something at work. Is there a link to this podcast? That'd be great.[/QUOTE] Sure there are podcasts, what do you want to listen to?
Paper Halo
**NEW** Street Fighter IV NEW FAMITSU SC ...
Behold!These scans look awesome! Can't wait for the game!!![]()
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**NEW** Street Fighter IV NEW FAMITSU SC ...
yay**NEW** Street Fighter IV NEW FAMITSU SC ...
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This game will be amazing. Best 1v1 fighter of 08? I hope the new Mortal Kombat can compare.EDIT: Well I think SC4 will be best 1v1 fighter, SF close second.
Chun Li design is awful imo. I like the rest though.
I love the style, its alittle diffrent but it still keeps that 2D feel or*looks* like it keeps the 2D feel
Chun li looks awesome :o
[QUOTE=''crazy-player'']Behold![/QUOTE]
Chun Li's thighs :o....I think she could break me in half with those.
[QUOTE=''cyborgjak427'']Chun Li's thighs :o....I think she could break me in half with those.[/QUOTE]awesome arn't they :D
Is Kristen Kruek from SmallVille still playing as Chun Li on the upcoming movie? If so, she better work them legs. I love it.
[QUOTE=''sparkypants'']I love the style, its alittle diffrent but it still keeps that 2D feel or*looks* like it keeps the 2D feel[/QUOTE] totally
Well, so far one new character is revealed, I guess you can read that as ''Crimson Wiper'', but if anyone has a better idea of what the Katakana is trying to get across, please correct me.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''][QUOTE=''sparkypants''] I love the style, its alittle diffrent but it still keeps that 2D feel or*looks* like it keeps the 2D feel [/QUOTE] totally [/QUOTE] Yeah I don't understand what peoples beef with the Chun Li model.. You would think that some one who can do all those kicks would need immense calf muscles.
Yep, it looks absolutely beautiful. I can't wait to play it.All HAIL THE KING!
yay**NEW** Street Fighter IV NEW FAMITSU SC ...
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This game will be amazing. Best 1v1 fighter of 08? I hope the new Mortal Kombat can compare.EDIT: Well I think SC4 will be best 1v1 fighter, SF close second.
Chun Li design is awful imo. I like the rest though.
I love the style, its alittle diffrent but it still keeps that 2D feel or*looks* like it keeps the 2D feel
Chun li looks awesome :o
[QUOTE=''crazy-player'']Behold![/QUOTE]
Chun Li's thighs :o....I think she could break me in half with those.
[QUOTE=''cyborgjak427'']Chun Li's thighs :o....I think she could break me in half with those.[/QUOTE]awesome arn't they :D
Is Kristen Kruek from SmallVille still playing as Chun Li on the upcoming movie? If so, she better work them legs. I love it.
[QUOTE=''sparkypants'']I love the style, its alittle diffrent but it still keeps that 2D feel or*looks* like it keeps the 2D feel[/QUOTE] totally
Well, so far one new character is revealed, I guess you can read that as ''Crimson Wiper'', but if anyone has a better idea of what the Katakana is trying to get across, please correct me.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''][QUOTE=''sparkypants''] I love the style, its alittle diffrent but it still keeps that 2D feel or*looks* like it keeps the 2D feel [/QUOTE] totally [/QUOTE] Yeah I don't understand what peoples beef with the Chun Li model.. You would think that some one who can do all those kicks would need immense calf muscles.
Yep, it looks absolutely beautiful. I can't wait to play it.All HAIL THE KING!
Question...how different will Wii spore ...
Does anyone know? Are they being made to be identical? How about graphics between the 2 versions? Anyone have any info on a release window?Any info would be pimpin' fresh awsome.Question...how different will Wii spore ...
no they are not identicle...will Wright has said every version is designed differently, the same thing happened with the Sims.And it makes sence, since on the PC, an internet connection is required, and the Wii's online setup isnt exacly that great, and I would be willing to bet that the majority of people dont even have their Wii hooked up online simply because their is little real reason too.
no they are not identicle...will Wright has said every version is designed differently, the same thing happened with the Sims.And it makes sence, since on the PC, an internet connection is required, and the Wii's online setup isnt exacly that great, and I would be willing to bet that the majority of people dont even have their Wii hooked up online simply because their is little real reason too.
Who thinks Lost Odyssey will get a 6 - 6 ...
I seriously do, kevin vanord will say its born,cliched,bland and the characters suck even though ign said there a nice dungeons, and there are several memorable characters.Who thinks Lost Odyssey will get a 6 - 6 ...
I'm going to say from 1-9. Anything is possible.Who thinks Lost Odyssey will get a 6 - 6 ...
[QUOTE=''Ragnarok1051'']I'm going to say from 1-9. Anything is possible.[/QUOTE]i'm with him lol
GS are random and unreliable and 360 fanboys so I'd say.....10
Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years
It'll get a 6 or 6.5 judging from past scores here. Unless the game is repetitive, then it'll get a 9.
I miss Greg Kasavin
yeah id say it will get between 6.0 and 7.5 here on gamespot, though from what iv read it should be 7.0 to 8.0 material
[QUOTE=''Chutebox'']It'll get a 6 or 6.5 judging from past scores here. Unless the game is repetitive, then it'll get a 9.[/QUOTE]lol :) so true, only repetitive games can get 9.0 from Kevin V.
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill'']Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE]Because if it was named ''FInal Fantasy 13'' It would automatically get a 9.5.....
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill'']Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE]Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.
If Kevin V reviews it, it is impossible to know. Does anyone else even review big name console games anymore? It seems to me like most of the other reviewers have either left, or have been laid off.His recent stuff is all over the place. He gave ME an 85, (AAA on GR, IGN, 1up, etc.,) games like NMH and AC AAA's (both AA's on GR and below AA on IGN, 1up, etc.) So, using the scores the game already has to base what GS's score will be is impossible.The better question is, why do people even care about GS's scores anymore? Nothing against GS or anything, but the glory days of this site's reviews are long, long gone. The forum's are still cool and everything, but the days of this site being a reviewing lighthouse among the big name sites are long gone. Long gone.
[QUOTE=''KingOfKonging'']If Kevin V reviews it, it is impossible to know. Does anyone else even review big name console games anymore?His recent stuff is all over the place. He gave ME an 85, (AAA on GR, IGN, 1up, etc.,) games like NMH and AC AAA's (both AA's on GR and below AA on IGN, 1up, etc.) So, using the scores the game already has to base what GS's score will be is impossible.The better question is, why do people even care about GS's scores anymore? Nothing against GS or anything, but the glory days of this site's reviews are long, long gone. [/QUOTE]Greg Kasavin left, then they put Jeff in charge! Now Kevin V is taking over, I bet CNET is on the verge of taking this website into their own hands.
Gerstmann was good though (don't get me wrong, Kasavin was awesome too,) he was also one of the founding fathers of this site so him being in charge of the review dpt. was hardly shocking.All of my favorite reviewers (the ones with opinions that seemed to be closest to my own) are no longer with GS, so honestly I don't care what any game gets on this site anymore. Nothing against Kevin V, but his opinion is just way off base from my own based on what I've seen of his work. I rented ME and ended up buying it because it was so awesome. When playing the game I realized that much of the game's largest critiques in the review were completely made up (not being able to aim the Mako, there being lots of Thresher Maws.)I bought AC based on this site's review (I used to do that all the time based on this site's reviews and rarely did it fail me) and ugh, that's something I'd rather forget. What a dull game. Who cares about GS's reviews anymore? CNET has completely destroyed this site's relevance.
[QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE] Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.[/QUOTE]No its not, when creating a FPS their are many ways to change the shooting mechanic,wereas 2 guys and a girl lining up waiting for the player to press attack or fire or even if ur really advanced, item, is possibly the most simple thing in gaming
[QUOTE=''supermechakirby''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE] Because if it was named ''FInal Fantasy 13'' It would automatically get a 9.5.....[/QUOTE] Id have to agree, but FFXIII looks set to bring innovation especially with the promise of a new combat system
[QUOTE=''KingOfKonging'']Gerstmann was good though, he was also one of the founding fathers of this site so him being in charge of the review dpt. was hardly shocking.All of my favorite reviewers (the ones with opinions closest to my own) are no longer with GS, so honestly I don't care what any game gets on this site anymore. Nothing against Kevin V, but his opinion is just way off base from my own. I rented ME and ended up buying it because it was so awesome.I bought AC based on this site's review (I used to do that all the time based on this site's reviews and rarely did it fail me) and ugh, that's something I'd rather forget. What a dull game. Who cares about GS's reviews anymore? CNET has completely destroyed this site's relevance.[/QUOTE]Gamespot destroyed gamespot, not CNET. Jeff wasnt the one to be in charge, he was best as the goofy guy, not the boss.
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE]Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.[/QUOTE]No its not, when creating a FPS their are many ways to change the shooting mechanic,wereas 2 guys and a girl lining up waiting for the player to press attack or fire or even if ur really advanced, item, is possibly the most simple thing in gaming[/QUOTE]More complex than pointing and shooting, wouldnt you say? Its just failed bias logic.
[QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE] Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.[/QUOTE]No its not, when creating a FPS their are many ways to change the shooting mechanic,wereas 2 guys and a girl lining up waiting for the player to press attack or fire or even if ur really advanced, item, is possibly the most simple thing in gaming[/QUOTE] More complex than pointing and shooting, wouldnt you say? Its just failed bias logic.[/QUOTE] Its not just pointing and shooting thers all the other things such as a cover sytem,stances,and in games like crysis all that suit BS
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE]Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.[/QUOTE]No its not, when creating a FPS their are many ways to change the shooting mechanic,wereas 2 guys and a girl lining up waiting for the player to press attack or fire or even if ur really advanced, item, is possibly the most simple thing in gaming[/QUOTE]More complex than pointing and shooting, wouldnt you say? Its just failed bias logic.[/QUOTE] Its not just pointing and shooting thers all the other things such as a cover sytem,stances,and in games like crysis all that suit BS[/QUOTE]Same can be said for JRPGs, cover systems and suit bs isnt really a huge thing. Lost Odyssey has a ring system and a wall defense system that are both unique. Read the ign review for a description. Im not trying to bash FPS, I love them as much as anybody else. Im just bashing the bias that north american gamers have towards JRPGs.
I'm going to say from 1-9. Anything is possible.Who thinks Lost Odyssey will get a 6 - 6 ...
[QUOTE=''Ragnarok1051'']I'm going to say from 1-9. Anything is possible.[/QUOTE]i'm with him lol
GS are random and unreliable and 360 fanboys so I'd say.....10
Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years
It'll get a 6 or 6.5 judging from past scores here. Unless the game is repetitive, then it'll get a 9.
I miss Greg Kasavin
yeah id say it will get between 6.0 and 7.5 here on gamespot, though from what iv read it should be 7.0 to 8.0 material
[QUOTE=''Chutebox'']It'll get a 6 or 6.5 judging from past scores here. Unless the game is repetitive, then it'll get a 9.[/QUOTE]lol :) so true, only repetitive games can get 9.0 from Kevin V.
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill'']Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE]Because if it was named ''FInal Fantasy 13'' It would automatically get a 9.5.....
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill'']Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE]Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.
If Kevin V reviews it, it is impossible to know. Does anyone else even review big name console games anymore? It seems to me like most of the other reviewers have either left, or have been laid off.His recent stuff is all over the place. He gave ME an 85, (AAA on GR, IGN, 1up, etc.,) games like NMH and AC AAA's (both AA's on GR and below AA on IGN, 1up, etc.) So, using the scores the game already has to base what GS's score will be is impossible.The better question is, why do people even care about GS's scores anymore? Nothing against GS or anything, but the glory days of this site's reviews are long, long gone. The forum's are still cool and everything, but the days of this site being a reviewing lighthouse among the big name sites are long gone. Long gone.
[QUOTE=''KingOfKonging'']If Kevin V reviews it, it is impossible to know. Does anyone else even review big name console games anymore?His recent stuff is all over the place. He gave ME an 85, (AAA on GR, IGN, 1up, etc.,) games like NMH and AC AAA's (both AA's on GR and below AA on IGN, 1up, etc.) So, using the scores the game already has to base what GS's score will be is impossible.The better question is, why do people even care about GS's scores anymore? Nothing against GS or anything, but the glory days of this site's reviews are long, long gone. [/QUOTE]Greg Kasavin left, then they put Jeff in charge! Now Kevin V is taking over, I bet CNET is on the verge of taking this website into their own hands.
Gerstmann was good though (don't get me wrong, Kasavin was awesome too,) he was also one of the founding fathers of this site so him being in charge of the review dpt. was hardly shocking.All of my favorite reviewers (the ones with opinions that seemed to be closest to my own) are no longer with GS, so honestly I don't care what any game gets on this site anymore. Nothing against Kevin V, but his opinion is just way off base from my own based on what I've seen of his work. I rented ME and ended up buying it because it was so awesome. When playing the game I realized that much of the game's largest critiques in the review were completely made up (not being able to aim the Mako, there being lots of Thresher Maws.)I bought AC based on this site's review (I used to do that all the time based on this site's reviews and rarely did it fail me) and ugh, that's something I'd rather forget. What a dull game. Who cares about GS's reviews anymore? CNET has completely destroyed this site's relevance.
[QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE] Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.[/QUOTE]No its not, when creating a FPS their are many ways to change the shooting mechanic,wereas 2 guys and a girl lining up waiting for the player to press attack or fire or even if ur really advanced, item, is possibly the most simple thing in gaming
[QUOTE=''supermechakirby''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE] Because if it was named ''FInal Fantasy 13'' It would automatically get a 9.5.....[/QUOTE] Id have to agree, but FFXIII looks set to bring innovation especially with the promise of a new combat system
[QUOTE=''KingOfKonging'']Gerstmann was good though, he was also one of the founding fathers of this site so him being in charge of the review dpt. was hardly shocking.All of my favorite reviewers (the ones with opinions closest to my own) are no longer with GS, so honestly I don't care what any game gets on this site anymore. Nothing against Kevin V, but his opinion is just way off base from my own. I rented ME and ended up buying it because it was so awesome.I bought AC based on this site's review (I used to do that all the time based on this site's reviews and rarely did it fail me) and ugh, that's something I'd rather forget. What a dull game. Who cares about GS's reviews anymore? CNET has completely destroyed this site's relevance.[/QUOTE]Gamespot destroyed gamespot, not CNET. Jeff wasnt the one to be in charge, he was best as the goofy guy, not the boss.
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE]Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.[/QUOTE]No its not, when creating a FPS their are many ways to change the shooting mechanic,wereas 2 guys and a girl lining up waiting for the player to press attack or fire or even if ur really advanced, item, is possibly the most simple thing in gaming[/QUOTE]More complex than pointing and shooting, wouldnt you say? Its just failed bias logic.
[QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE] Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.[/QUOTE]No its not, when creating a FPS their are many ways to change the shooting mechanic,wereas 2 guys and a girl lining up waiting for the player to press attack or fire or even if ur really advanced, item, is possibly the most simple thing in gaming[/QUOTE] More complex than pointing and shooting, wouldnt you say? Its just failed bias logic.[/QUOTE] Its not just pointing and shooting thers all the other things such as a cover sytem,stances,and in games like crysis all that suit BS
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''TerroRizing''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''] Well if it scores below 8 its a crime,why?Its a JRPG its just guys lining up to take hits at bats,and it always has been the gameplay hasnt changed in 10 years[/QUOTE]Thats like saying FPS are nothing but shooting Nazis in WW2. It hasnt changed in nearly 20 years.[/QUOTE]No its not, when creating a FPS their are many ways to change the shooting mechanic,wereas 2 guys and a girl lining up waiting for the player to press attack or fire or even if ur really advanced, item, is possibly the most simple thing in gaming[/QUOTE]More complex than pointing and shooting, wouldnt you say? Its just failed bias logic.[/QUOTE] Its not just pointing and shooting thers all the other things such as a cover sytem,stances,and in games like crysis all that suit BS[/QUOTE]Same can be said for JRPGs, cover systems and suit bs isnt really a huge thing. Lost Odyssey has a ring system and a wall defense system that are both unique. Read the ign review for a description. Im not trying to bash FPS, I love them as much as anybody else. Im just bashing the bias that north american gamers have towards JRPGs.
microsoft claims a 7 game per console at ...
sorry if oldhttp://kotaku.com/349058/microsoft-moving-7-games-per-consolemicrosoft claims a 7 game per console at ...
that's great, I guess I'm helping way more since I have 25 xbox 360 games :Pmicrosoft claims a 7 game per console at ...
[QUOTE=''club-sandwich'']that's great, I guess I'm helping way more since I have 25 xbox 360 games :P[/QUOTE]ha so your the one that磗 been pulling my weight (only have 5...for now)
[QUOTE=''stika'']sorry if oldhttp://kotaku.com/349058/microsoft-moving-7-games-per-console[/QUOTE]I can believe it since I have over 15 Xbox 360 games.
Attach rate is really a useless statistic to try and glean any info from.
ms also clams pc gaming market rules all. but if thats true by make a console to fight agiants ur other platfrom
i own 12 myself :P
attach rate is games puchase with the console, 7 seems abit high to me.
i dont think ive bought games as fast for any system as i have for my 360. i have 9 i think and ive only had it 1 year. not saying its the best console ive ever had....i guess its really the first console ive fully owned since ive lived on my own. im 24 btw.
I think Ive got 24 games for my 360, kinda losing count with all the purchases I made for 360 and PS2 this holiday.
i've got 22 games for my 360... only 3 for my wii... only played the system a few times... 7 hours into mass effect.. 2hours into assassins creed...played 1 hour of rainbow six vegas...
Is that really good?
Wait!, Is the attach rate dropping from 8 or was it 9 a few months ago?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en%26q=NPD+360+attach+rate+8.8%26btnG=Search''Management expects the Wii software attach rate (roughly 5 according to NPD) should continue to be at a discount to the 360 (8.8 attach according to NPD),'' Hickey wrote in a Thursday investor note. [Update: A Microsoft earnings conference call Thursday said the attach rate was seven for Xbox 360.]
i own well over 20. maybe even 30. and it helps that i have a brother who would rather buy 360 games than games for his Wii.
[QUOTE=''rtehrani'']i dont think ive bought games as fast for any system as i have for my 360. i have 9 i think and ive only had it 1 year. not saying its the best console ive ever had....i guess its really the first console ive fully owned since ive lived on my own. im 24 btw.[/QUOTE]I remember the start of the last gen spending 50 bucks felt like a crap load of money to spend on anything, now well its not chump change but it doesnt hurt the wallet as much as it did in the past.
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod'']Attach rate is really a useless statistic to try and glean any info from.[/QUOTE]How so?
56. Not counting Arcade games.
Yea. I've got 14 or so myself. 4 or 5 not even opened.360 + Xbox Live = crack cocaine.
i have 16 games plus 10 XBLA games (Hexic HD came free with console, Undertow free, Texas Hold em i had free)
I own 16 games and 5 arcade gamesg
that's great, I guess I'm helping way more since I have 25 xbox 360 games :Pmicrosoft claims a 7 game per console at ...
[QUOTE=''club-sandwich'']that's great, I guess I'm helping way more since I have 25 xbox 360 games :P[/QUOTE]ha so your the one that磗 been pulling my weight (only have 5...for now)
[QUOTE=''stika'']sorry if oldhttp://kotaku.com/349058/microsoft-moving-7-games-per-console[/QUOTE]I can believe it since I have over 15 Xbox 360 games.
Attach rate is really a useless statistic to try and glean any info from.
ms also clams pc gaming market rules all. but if thats true by make a console to fight agiants ur other platfrom
i own 12 myself :P
attach rate is games puchase with the console, 7 seems abit high to me.
i dont think ive bought games as fast for any system as i have for my 360. i have 9 i think and ive only had it 1 year. not saying its the best console ive ever had....i guess its really the first console ive fully owned since ive lived on my own. im 24 btw.
I think Ive got 24 games for my 360, kinda losing count with all the purchases I made for 360 and PS2 this holiday.
i've got 22 games for my 360... only 3 for my wii... only played the system a few times... 7 hours into mass effect.. 2hours into assassins creed...played 1 hour of rainbow six vegas...
Is that really good?
Wait!, Is the attach rate dropping from 8 or was it 9 a few months ago?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en%26q=NPD+360+attach+rate+8.8%26btnG=Search''Management expects the Wii software attach rate (roughly 5 according to NPD) should continue to be at a discount to the 360 (8.8 attach according to NPD),'' Hickey wrote in a Thursday investor note. [Update: A Microsoft earnings conference call Thursday said the attach rate was seven for Xbox 360.]
i own well over 20. maybe even 30. and it helps that i have a brother who would rather buy 360 games than games for his Wii.
[QUOTE=''rtehrani'']i dont think ive bought games as fast for any system as i have for my 360. i have 9 i think and ive only had it 1 year. not saying its the best console ive ever had....i guess its really the first console ive fully owned since ive lived on my own. im 24 btw.[/QUOTE]I remember the start of the last gen spending 50 bucks felt like a crap load of money to spend on anything, now well its not chump change but it doesnt hurt the wallet as much as it did in the past.
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod'']Attach rate is really a useless statistic to try and glean any info from.[/QUOTE]How so?
56. Not counting Arcade games.
Yea. I've got 14 or so myself. 4 or 5 not even opened.360 + Xbox Live = crack cocaine.
i have 16 games plus 10 XBLA games (Hexic HD came free with console, Undertow free, Texas Hold em i had free)
I own 16 games and 5 arcade games
Bring Down the Sky
Woot new dlc for Mass Effect. Adds 90 minutes, 400 ms points. Bring Down the Sky
coming out march 10th. 4 amBring Down the Sky
http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=616574%26forum=104
shouldnt this be in 360 forums?
don't really care right now... just excited..
coming out march 10th. 4 amBring Down the Sky
http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=616574%26forum=104
shouldnt this be in 360 forums?
don't really care right now... just excited..
Bunch of New GTA IV Screens...Video Form
New screens taken from a German Mag on Feb 6th...I think The Graphics look amazing for a sandbox game!http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/172656.html?playlist=featured Bunch of New GTA IV Screens...Video Form
0_oThanks... now I just have to kill some time... or some other stuff... Bunch of New GTA IV Screens...Video Form
When is the demo coming out
0_oThanks... now I just have to kill some time... or some other stuff... Bunch of New GTA IV Screens...Video Form
When is the demo coming out
PS2 vs PSP, which is more powerful?
I am talking about the PSP Slime and PS2 Slime. Which is has or will have better graphics and performance for games?PS2 vs PSP, which is more powerful?
Are the slime models green? PS2 vs PSP, which is more powerful?
[QUOTE=''clank120'']I am talking about the PSP Slime and PS2 Slime. Which is has or will have better graphics and performance for games?[/QUOTE]the PS2 is slightly more powerfull, the graphics have fewer jaggies, also because the media on the PSP is bigger (DVD has 4.6 gigs while the UMD has 1.8 Gigs) you can expect more FMV磗 and in game audio on the PS2
in terms of specs the psp is more powerfull...only reason they cant use the psp to full power is the battery would be killed fast
[QUOTE=''stereointegrity''] in terms of specs the psp is more powerfull...only reason they cant use the psp to full power is the battery would be killed fast [/QUOTE] What? No.Why would they bother cramming in more powerful (expensive) hardware if they wouldn't be able to use it. That makes zero sense.The PS2 is CLEARLY the more powerful of the two.
That's the same as asking ''Which is more powerful, PCs or Laptops?''
PSP is on par with the Dreamcast- which is a bit less powerful than PS2
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod''][QUOTE=''stereointegrity''] in terms of specs the psp is more powerfull...only reason they cant use the psp to full power is the battery would be killed fast[/QUOTE] What? No.Why would they bother cramming in more powerful (expensive) hardware if they wouldn't be able to use it. That makes zero sense.The PS2 is CLEARLY the more powerful of the two.[/QUOTE]Actually Stereointegrity is right. The PSP processor was underclocked to around 233mhz for most of its life. It technically has an approx 333mhz processor, basically the ''emotion engine'' in smaller form. They both share the same amount of system and video ram. Tech specs of the PSP. The reason why Sony chose to underclock the PSP rather than choose inferior components is because the PSP is basically a PS2 in portable form, it's the same technology and has the same economies of scale. It's cheaper to mass produce in-house Sony technology which already shares massive economies of scale.The PSP slim also possesses more system RAM 64MB compared to the 32MB on the PS2, but because it's a new model it can never be fully utilisedThe reason why games tend to look worse on the PSP than their PS2 counterparts is because of battery life. The PSP even when the processor was capped at 233mhz had poor battery life, now imagine if they had left the developers to use all the systems power, you'd be looking at some games with a sub-1hour battery life.
mmm i got me a slime ps2, it has slime like a snail! yay! sony makes slimey products! lol, u mean slim.
[QUOTE=''stika''][QUOTE=''clank120'']I am talking about the PSP Slime and PS2 Slime. Which is has or will have better graphics and performance for games?[/QUOTE]the PS2 is slightly more powerfull, the graphics have fewer jaggies, also because the media on the PSP is bigger (DVD has 4.6 gigs while the UMD has 1.8 Gigs) you can expect more FMV磗 and in game audio on the PS2 [/QUOTE]So 1.8 is bigger than 4.6 huh? o_o
ps2 is more powerul. graphics wise they look pretty similar but you can tell when you are runnign around a level and notice how crappy the detail is on psp.. but some games like syphon filter look great.
[QUOTE=''dotWithShoes'']Are the slime models green? [/QUOTE]LOL, my bad; PS2 slim
Are the slime models green? PS2 vs PSP, which is more powerful?
[QUOTE=''clank120'']I am talking about the PSP Slime and PS2 Slime. Which is has or will have better graphics and performance for games?[/QUOTE]the PS2 is slightly more powerfull, the graphics have fewer jaggies, also because the media on the PSP is bigger (DVD has 4.6 gigs while the UMD has 1.8 Gigs) you can expect more FMV磗 and in game audio on the PS2
in terms of specs the psp is more powerfull...only reason they cant use the psp to full power is the battery would be killed fast
[QUOTE=''stereointegrity''] in terms of specs the psp is more powerfull...only reason they cant use the psp to full power is the battery would be killed fast [/QUOTE] What? No.Why would they bother cramming in more powerful (expensive) hardware if they wouldn't be able to use it. That makes zero sense.The PS2 is CLEARLY the more powerful of the two.
That's the same as asking ''Which is more powerful, PCs or Laptops?''
PSP is on par with the Dreamcast- which is a bit less powerful than PS2
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod''][QUOTE=''stereointegrity''] in terms of specs the psp is more powerfull...only reason they cant use the psp to full power is the battery would be killed fast[/QUOTE] What? No.Why would they bother cramming in more powerful (expensive) hardware if they wouldn't be able to use it. That makes zero sense.The PS2 is CLEARLY the more powerful of the two.[/QUOTE]Actually Stereointegrity is right. The PSP processor was underclocked to around 233mhz for most of its life. It technically has an approx 333mhz processor, basically the ''emotion engine'' in smaller form. They both share the same amount of system and video ram. Tech specs of the PSP. The reason why Sony chose to underclock the PSP rather than choose inferior components is because the PSP is basically a PS2 in portable form, it's the same technology and has the same economies of scale. It's cheaper to mass produce in-house Sony technology which already shares massive economies of scale.The PSP slim also possesses more system RAM 64MB compared to the 32MB on the PS2, but because it's a new model it can never be fully utilisedThe reason why games tend to look worse on the PSP than their PS2 counterparts is because of battery life. The PSP even when the processor was capped at 233mhz had poor battery life, now imagine if they had left the developers to use all the systems power, you'd be looking at some games with a sub-1hour battery life.
mmm i got me a slime ps2, it has slime like a snail! yay! sony makes slimey products! lol, u mean slim.
[QUOTE=''stika''][QUOTE=''clank120'']I am talking about the PSP Slime and PS2 Slime. Which is has or will have better graphics and performance for games?[/QUOTE]the PS2 is slightly more powerfull, the graphics have fewer jaggies, also because the media on the PSP is bigger (DVD has 4.6 gigs while the UMD has 1.8 Gigs) you can expect more FMV磗 and in game audio on the PS2 [/QUOTE]So 1.8 is bigger than 4.6 huh? o_o
ps2 is more powerul. graphics wise they look pretty similar but you can tell when you are runnign around a level and notice how crappy the detail is on psp.. but some games like syphon filter look great.
[QUOTE=''dotWithShoes'']Are the slime models green? [/QUOTE]LOL, my bad; PS2 slim
New trailer for Viking: Battle for Asgar ...
Creative Assembly (the Total War series) has a promising looking game here that is looking to improve upon Spartan: Total Warrior from last gen. It is definitely on my radar of games to keep an eye on, and looking better every time I see it. Check it out:http://www.gamespot.com/video/942959/6185595/viking-battle-for-asgard-official-trailer-1 New trailer for Viking: Battle for Asgar ...
This looks like a hack and slash game. I love those. The more repetitive the better mmmmmmm it tastes good.New trailer for Viking: Battle for Asgar ...
[QUOTE=''hoola''] This looks like a hack and slash game. I love those. The more repetitive the better mmmmmmm it tastes good.[/QUOTE]It is actually going to have stealth missions and free roaming gameplay in a huge world as well. You will also be able to go to different towns and amass your own army, get equipment, ect. Not to mention that there is going to be strategy elements involved in the massive confrontations that will have you undertaking certain objectives in order to advance, such as calling in dragon air strikes on certain targets, defeating certain enimies or groups of enemies, boss fights, ect.From what I have read, it is supposed to be like a free roaming, strategic God of War, with Braveheart style battles. I am looking forward to it, myself.
Looks decent
i dunno man i bought into the spartan hype.. and i got screwed that game was so unfinished. i'm very skeptical
Yay vikings
[QUOTE=''crystos'']i dunno man i bought into the spartan hype.. and i got screwed that game was so unfinished. i'm very skeptical[/QUOTE]Yeah, we will have to wait and see, but I think that it is looking pretty good so far. Besides, we need a good game based on Viking lore. At least the source material is something different.
Won't be anything special, but I did enjoy Spartan: Total Warrior. will watch this one.
[QUOTE=''ironcreed''][QUOTE=''crystos'']i dunno man i bought into the spartan hype.. and i got screwed that game was so unfinished. i'm very skeptical[/QUOTE]Yeah, we will have to wait and see, but I think that it is looking pretty good so far. Besides, we need a good game based on Viking lore. At least the source material is something different.[/QUOTE]True, they really should make a GOW type game with vikings instead of Spartans.
This looks like a hack and slash game. I love those. The more repetitive the better mmmmmmm it tastes good.New trailer for Viking: Battle for Asgar ...
[QUOTE=''hoola''] This looks like a hack and slash game. I love those. The more repetitive the better mmmmmmm it tastes good.[/QUOTE]It is actually going to have stealth missions and free roaming gameplay in a huge world as well. You will also be able to go to different towns and amass your own army, get equipment, ect. Not to mention that there is going to be strategy elements involved in the massive confrontations that will have you undertaking certain objectives in order to advance, such as calling in dragon air strikes on certain targets, defeating certain enimies or groups of enemies, boss fights, ect.From what I have read, it is supposed to be like a free roaming, strategic God of War, with Braveheart style battles. I am looking forward to it, myself.
Looks decent
i dunno man i bought into the spartan hype.. and i got screwed that game was so unfinished. i'm very skeptical
Yay vikings
[QUOTE=''crystos'']i dunno man i bought into the spartan hype.. and i got screwed that game was so unfinished. i'm very skeptical[/QUOTE]Yeah, we will have to wait and see, but I think that it is looking pretty good so far. Besides, we need a good game based on Viking lore. At least the source material is something different.
Won't be anything special, but I did enjoy Spartan: Total Warrior. will watch this one.
[QUOTE=''ironcreed''][QUOTE=''crystos'']i dunno man i bought into the spartan hype.. and i got screwed that game was so unfinished. i'm very skeptical[/QUOTE]Yeah, we will have to wait and see, but I think that it is looking pretty good so far. Besides, we need a good game based on Viking lore. At least the source material is something different.[/QUOTE]True, they really should make a GOW type game with vikings instead of Spartans.
Is Gamespot ever going to review TUROK!?
topicIs Gamespot ever going to review TUROK!?
Waiting to make sure the check from Touchstone doesn't bounce I guess.Is Gamespot ever going to review TUROK!?
probably...i just watched GT trailer and it recieved good score and looks like a solid game....but then i also played the demo and it was mediocre so idk what to think of this game...full game might be awesome
The reviewers are too busy killing little, friendly dinosaurs.
It takes a good week for the devs and publishers to read the first draft of the reviews, demande changes and then give it back.
Then another week for GS to make those changes.
The standard 2 week GS delay for reviews.
They're just waiting for the check to clear. ;)
[QUOTE=''DisPimpin'']They're just waiting for the check to clear. ;)[/QUOTE]Old but funny.
Well, they tend to stall when reviewing crappy games...[QUOTE=''Deactivation'']Waiting to make sure the check from Touchstone doesn't bounce I guess.[/QUOTE]Oh man, I hope you saw the fight between Colbert, Conan, and Stewart :lol:
Do you mean... Turdrok?!!My efforts to spread that nickname across the internet have not yet been as fruitful as I had hoped. Must keep trying.
They are probably nigotiating the score with the TouchStone as we speak
I think Turdrok is going to score 7.5.
I thought the raptors in the demo were pretty cool. But then the supersolders were mediocre.
Just be patient. Their reviews are always a few days late or more. Their Uncharted review came like a week and a half after IGNs.
When they do I bet they give it either a 7.5 or an 8.0, just like everyone else.
I don't think they have enough reviewers now after Ryan Davis left.
Waiting to make sure the check from Touchstone doesn't bounce I guess.Is Gamespot ever going to review TUROK!?
probably...i just watched GT trailer and it recieved good score and looks like a solid game....but then i also played the demo and it was mediocre so idk what to think of this game...full game might be awesome
The reviewers are too busy killing little, friendly dinosaurs.
It takes a good week for the devs and publishers to read the first draft of the reviews, demande changes and then give it back.
Then another week for GS to make those changes.
The standard 2 week GS delay for reviews.
They're just waiting for the check to clear. ;)
[QUOTE=''DisPimpin'']They're just waiting for the check to clear. ;)[/QUOTE]Old but funny.
Well, they tend to stall when reviewing crappy games...[QUOTE=''Deactivation'']Waiting to make sure the check from Touchstone doesn't bounce I guess.[/QUOTE]Oh man, I hope you saw the fight between Colbert, Conan, and Stewart :lol:
Do you mean... Turdrok?!!My efforts to spread that nickname across the internet have not yet been as fruitful as I had hoped. Must keep trying.
They are probably nigotiating the score with the TouchStone as we speak
I think Turdrok is going to score 7.5.
I thought the raptors in the demo were pretty cool. But then the supersolders were mediocre.
Just be patient. Their reviews are always a few days late or more. Their Uncharted review came like a week and a half after IGNs.
When they do I bet they give it either a 7.5 or an 8.0, just like everyone else.
I don't think they have enough reviewers now after Ryan Davis left.
Jaffe PWNS Miyamoto - Quote of the Year
Apparently when Miyamoto first went to Retro Studios, they were making a car combat game, he said, ''Why would you make that? Why would you put a gun on a car?'' And they stopped development on the game. So maybe you should answer that question. Why would you put a gun on a car?
Jaffe: You know, honestly, I've been too busy recently trying to figure out why the **** go-karts shoot banana peels.http://flixn.com/play/loxnra/ http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/01/interview-david.htmlJaffe PWNS Miyamoto - Quote of the Year
In other current events, I hear Reagan is running for president!
I kid, I kid. But srsly, Jaffe's already posted a video blog directed at all the nintendo fanboys that tried to split hairs and take shots at him for that statement.Jaffe PWNS Miyamoto - Quote of the Year
Banana peels >>> Guns There ;)
I love Shiggy, but that was a good dose of ownage. Jaffe is very funny.In real life I'd much rather have a banana launched at me form a car than bullets :(.
[QUOTE=''0rin'']In other current events, I hear Reagan is running for president![/QUOTE] Except this quote is more interesting.
he's funny, but Miyamoto has my respect.
just because he owns an wii and an xbox 360 doesn't mean he's not a fanboy.
Jaffe is a pompous peice of ****, if he had 1/100 of the talent Miyamoto has in his pinky, maybe then he should open his mouth. Till then he should shut the **** up.
I like his games but Jaffe is a horrible annoying man.
It was a joke, he wasnt being serious.
LOL, haha, thats hilarious.
OMG, someone dared to question miyamoto???? NOOOOO!!!!
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[QUOTE=''vegetattack15'']Jaffe is a pompous peice of ****, if he had 1/100 of the talent Miyamoto has in his pinky, maybe then he should open his mouth. Till then he should shut the **** up.[/QUOTE]You should know that he said this as a joke. He's like that. I found it very funny. He said on his blog that he would never compare himself to Miyamoto or put himself on the same pedestal as Miyamoto. Just because he swears alot dosn't make him an @$$hole.
Is answer was funny but he should have added 'So you could enter the Twisted Metal Competition and claim a prize of your choosing' :P
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[QUOTE=''alextheman123'']Is answer was funny but he should have added 'So you could enter the Twisted Metal Competition and claim a prize of your choosing' :P[/QUOTE]
''And then shoot Calypso in the head, execution ****.. again''. Man, I love Twisted Metal. So nostalgic... Particularly TM2.
lol didn't see that one coming.
[QUOTE=''RazMaTaz-1''] [QUOTE=''vegetattack15'']Jaffe is a pompous peice of ****, if he had 1/100 of the talent Miyamoto has in his pinky, maybe then he should open his mouth. Till then he should shut the **** up.[/QUOTE]If you had 1/100 of the talent of Jaffe, then maybe u can speak, but for now, shut the **** up :P see what i did there [/QUOTE]I see what you did. Jaffe is an a$$hole, seen him on interview after interview. He spends more time talking **** than games. What kind of stupid **** seriously wants to go from making epic GoW games to stupid CaC's, which I played and is horrid.
people who don't find this amusing are the blindest nintendo fans. Everyone respects miyamoto but hat is just funny.
[QUOTE=''vegetattack15''][QUOTE=''RazMaTaz-1''] [QUOTE=''vegetattack15'']Jaffe is a pompous peice of ****, if he had 1/100 of the talent Miyamoto has in his pinky, maybe then he should open his mouth. Till then he should shut the **** up.[/QUOTE]If you had 1/100 of the talent of Jaffe, then maybe u can speak, but for now, shut the **** up :P see what i did there [/QUOTE]I see what you did. Jaffe is an a$$hole, seen him on interview after interview. He spends more time talking **** than games. What kind of stupid **** seriously wants to go from making epic GoW games to stupid CaC's, which I played and is horrid.[/QUOTE]cant blame the guy, hes got a family now. Hes making a Ps3 title(a proper title, no PSN stuff) which is still yet to be revealed.g
Jaffe: You know, honestly, I've been too busy recently trying to figure out why the **** go-karts shoot banana peels.http://flixn.com/play/loxnra/ http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/01/interview-david.htmlJaffe PWNS Miyamoto - Quote of the Year
In other current events, I hear Reagan is running for president!
I kid, I kid. But srsly, Jaffe's already posted a video blog directed at all the nintendo fanboys that tried to split hairs and take shots at him for that statement.Jaffe PWNS Miyamoto - Quote of the Year
Banana peels >>> Guns There ;)
I love Shiggy, but that was a good dose of ownage. Jaffe is very funny.In real life I'd much rather have a banana launched at me form a car than bullets :(.
[QUOTE=''0rin'']In other current events, I hear Reagan is running for president![/QUOTE] Except this quote is more interesting.
he's funny, but Miyamoto has my respect.
just because he owns an wii and an xbox 360 doesn't mean he's not a fanboy.
Jaffe is a pompous peice of ****, if he had 1/100 of the talent Miyamoto has in his pinky, maybe then he should open his mouth. Till then he should shut the **** up.
I like his games but Jaffe is a horrible annoying man.
It was a joke, he wasnt being serious.
LOL, haha, thats hilarious.
OMG, someone dared to question miyamoto???? NOOOOO!!!!
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[QUOTE=''vegetattack15'']Jaffe is a pompous peice of ****, if he had 1/100 of the talent Miyamoto has in his pinky, maybe then he should open his mouth. Till then he should shut the **** up.[/QUOTE]You should know that he said this as a joke. He's like that. I found it very funny. He said on his blog that he would never compare himself to Miyamoto or put himself on the same pedestal as Miyamoto. Just because he swears alot dosn't make him an @$$hole.
Is answer was funny but he should have added 'So you could enter the Twisted Metal Competition and claim a prize of your choosing' :P
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[QUOTE=''alextheman123'']Is answer was funny but he should have added 'So you could enter the Twisted Metal Competition and claim a prize of your choosing' :P[/QUOTE]
''And then shoot Calypso in the head, execution ****.. again''. Man, I love Twisted Metal. So nostalgic... Particularly TM2.
lol didn't see that one coming.
[QUOTE=''RazMaTaz-1''] [QUOTE=''vegetattack15'']Jaffe is a pompous peice of ****, if he had 1/100 of the talent Miyamoto has in his pinky, maybe then he should open his mouth. Till then he should shut the **** up.[/QUOTE]If you had 1/100 of the talent of Jaffe, then maybe u can speak, but for now, shut the **** up :P see what i did there [/QUOTE]I see what you did. Jaffe is an a$$hole, seen him on interview after interview. He spends more time talking **** than games. What kind of stupid **** seriously wants to go from making epic GoW games to stupid CaC's, which I played and is horrid.
people who don't find this amusing are the blindest nintendo fans. Everyone respects miyamoto but hat is just funny.
[QUOTE=''vegetattack15''][QUOTE=''RazMaTaz-1''] [QUOTE=''vegetattack15'']Jaffe is a pompous peice of ****, if he had 1/100 of the talent Miyamoto has in his pinky, maybe then he should open his mouth. Till then he should shut the **** up.[/QUOTE]If you had 1/100 of the talent of Jaffe, then maybe u can speak, but for now, shut the **** up :P see what i did there [/QUOTE]I see what you did. Jaffe is an a$$hole, seen him on interview after interview. He spends more time talking **** than games. What kind of stupid **** seriously wants to go from making epic GoW games to stupid CaC's, which I played and is horrid.[/QUOTE]cant blame the guy, hes got a family now. Hes making a Ps3 title(a proper title, no PSN stuff) which is still yet to be revealed.
worst port ?
fear ps3 version inferrior worst port ?
RE4 on the PC, such a shame :cry:Saying that though i think there are patches and mods now that make it better.worst port ?
alien hominid lost a lot from flash game on newgrounds to console game (at least in challenge, which is what made it a great game)
Crysis
crysis is most likely gonna be soon or far cry
Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.
[QUOTE=''beast667'']alien hominid lost a lot from flash game on newgrounds to console game (at least in challenge, which is what made it a great game)[/QUOTE]game was still hard as hell when it was ported
Splinter Cell for PS2...it was solid, but it just wasn't the same game.GUN : Xbox 360. It was the exact same game on PS2/Xbox.Metal Gear Solid 2 : Substance on Xbox. The PS2 version of Subtance or even MGS2 Sons of Liberty was a much better experience.Need for Speed Hot Pursuit : Gamecube and Xbox. They were proted from PS2, and it was tragic(Of course, they were new hardware at the time). Guitar Hero III for Wii. Mono sound and Poor online FTL.FFI and FFII for PSP. Not much different.
[QUOTE=''Panzer_Zwei'']Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.[/QUOTE] Hands down. Well said. the arcades ports were shocking
Worst I've seen has GOT to be Farcry:Instincts. That was a shocker.The most dissapointing port? RainbowSix: Vegas. The game still kicked ass but it was just so bland tacular. The colours were TOTALLY bland compared to the console version. I still haven't figured that part out. Its like playing in SD. Really, really weird.
outrun on the spectrum 48k
Devil May Cry 3 on PC. It's unplayable.
[QUOTE=''creativeminded''][QUOTE=''Panzer_Zwei'']Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.[/QUOTE] Hands down. Well said. the arcades ports were shocking [/QUOTE]There was SOME shocking ports but not all arcade games sucked on consoles. Hell I still play my precious JP (of course) Final Fight CD over any arcade perfect version simply because it was so close to 100% perfect minus some colour and background animation in 2 or 3 scenes and the CD music is so awesome the arcade version just does not compare. I still say Strider Hiryu on the MD is one of the greatest conversions of all time too. Not to mention the PC Engine Arcade CD Neo Geo titles. I will NEVER know how the hell NEC Avenue screwed up with Strider Hiryu Aracde CD so badly.Of course for every Strider Hiryu and Final Fight CD there was Sengoku Densho (M-CD version is very good), Final Fight, King of Dragons, Undercover Cops and Super R-TYPE on the SFC. I also can't mention bad arcade ports without mentioning the TRAGIC US made Punisher on the MD. WTF WERE THEY THINKING!!!
[QUOTE=''austin_is_god''][QUOTE=''creativeminded''][QUOTE=''Panzer_Zwei'']Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.[/QUOTE] Hands down. Well said. the arcades ports were shocking [/QUOTE]There was SOME shocking ports but not all arcade games sucked on consoles. Hell I still play my precious JP (of course) Final Fight CD over any arcade perfect version simply because it was so close to 100% perfect minus some colour and background animation in 2 or 3 scenes and the CD music is so awesome the arcade version just does not compare. I still say Strider Hiryu on the MD is one of the greatest conversions of all time too. Not to mention the PC Engine Arcade CD Neo Geo titles. I will NEVER know how the hell NEC Avenue screwed up with Strider Hiryu Aracde CD so badly.Of course for every Strider Hiryu and Final Fight CD there was Sengoku Densho (M-CD version is very good), Final Fight, King of Dragons, Undercover Cops and Super R-TYPE on the SFC. I also can't mention bad arcade ports without mentioning the TRAGIC US made Punisher on the MD. WTF WERE THEY THINKING!!! [/QUOTE] Hadn't considered the CD versions. I was stricly speaking for the cartridge version of arcade games which had less quality insounds and visuals. Mortal Kombat at home was nothing like at the arcades
splinter cell double agent on ps3....looked like crap! lost planet on ps3 again is looking very ps2ish to me
From this gen Madden springs to mind.
Outrun on the Atari ST.
[QUOTE=''creativeminded''][QUOTE=''austin_is_god''][QUOTE=''creativeminded''][QUOTE=''Panzer_Zwei'']Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.[/QUOTE] Hands down. Well said. the arcades ports were shocking [/QUOTE]There was SOME shocking ports but not all arcade games sucked on consoles. Hell I still play my precious JP (of course) Final Fight CD over any arcade perfect version simply because it was so close to 100% perfect minus some colour and background animation in 2 or 3 scenes and the CD music is so awesome the arcade version just does not compare. I still say Strider Hiryu on the MD is one of the greatest conversions of all time too. Not to mention the PC Engine Arcade CD Neo Geo titles. I will NEVER know how the hell NEC Avenue screwed up with Strider Hiryu Aracde CD so badly.Of course for every Strider Hiryu and Final Fight CD there was Sengoku Densho (M-CD version is very good), Final Fight, King of Dragons, Undercover Cops and Super R-TYPE on the SFC. I also can't mention bad arcade ports without mentioning the TRAGIC US made Punisher on the MD. WTF WERE THEY THINKING!!! [/QUOTE] Hadn't considered the CD versions. I was stricly speaking for the cartridge version of arcade games which had less quality insounds and visuals. Mortal Kombat at home was nothing like at the arcades [/QUOTE]The CD versions were just as bad.The Arcade Card for the PC-Engine CD/Duo was pathetic. (I have one)It was a waste of money. The system never made the 16-bit cut, no matter how many cards they put out.
ANY arcade game ported to the NES/SNES. Revolution X comes to mind in particular...
i was going to say lost planet on the ps3..seriously..what the hell is capcom trying to pull?
RE4 on the PC, such a shame :cry:Saying that though i think there are patches and mods now that make it better.worst port ?
alien hominid lost a lot from flash game on newgrounds to console game (at least in challenge, which is what made it a great game)
Crysis
crysis is most likely gonna be soon or far cry
Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.
[QUOTE=''beast667'']alien hominid lost a lot from flash game on newgrounds to console game (at least in challenge, which is what made it a great game)[/QUOTE]game was still hard as hell when it was ported
Splinter Cell for PS2...it was solid, but it just wasn't the same game.GUN : Xbox 360. It was the exact same game on PS2/Xbox.Metal Gear Solid 2 : Substance on Xbox. The PS2 version of Subtance or even MGS2 Sons of Liberty was a much better experience.Need for Speed Hot Pursuit : Gamecube and Xbox. They were proted from PS2, and it was tragic(Of course, they were new hardware at the time). Guitar Hero III for Wii. Mono sound and Poor online FTL.FFI and FFII for PSP. Not much different.
[QUOTE=''Panzer_Zwei'']Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.[/QUOTE] Hands down. Well said. the arcades ports were shocking
Worst I've seen has GOT to be Farcry:Instincts. That was a shocker.The most dissapointing port? RainbowSix: Vegas. The game still kicked ass but it was just so bland tacular. The colours were TOTALLY bland compared to the console version. I still haven't figured that part out. Its like playing in SD. Really, really weird.
outrun on the spectrum 48k
Devil May Cry 3 on PC. It's unplayable.
[QUOTE=''creativeminded''][QUOTE=''Panzer_Zwei'']Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.[/QUOTE] Hands down. Well said. the arcades ports were shocking [/QUOTE]There was SOME shocking ports but not all arcade games sucked on consoles. Hell I still play my precious JP (of course) Final Fight CD over any arcade perfect version simply because it was so close to 100% perfect minus some colour and background animation in 2 or 3 scenes and the CD music is so awesome the arcade version just does not compare. I still say Strider Hiryu on the MD is one of the greatest conversions of all time too. Not to mention the PC Engine Arcade CD Neo Geo titles. I will NEVER know how the hell NEC Avenue screwed up with Strider Hiryu Aracde CD so badly.Of course for every Strider Hiryu and Final Fight CD there was Sengoku Densho (M-CD version is very good), Final Fight, King of Dragons, Undercover Cops and Super R-TYPE on the SFC. I also can't mention bad arcade ports without mentioning the TRAGIC US made Punisher on the MD. WTF WERE THEY THINKING!!!
[QUOTE=''austin_is_god''][QUOTE=''creativeminded''][QUOTE=''Panzer_Zwei'']Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.[/QUOTE] Hands down. Well said. the arcades ports were shocking [/QUOTE]There was SOME shocking ports but not all arcade games sucked on consoles. Hell I still play my precious JP (of course) Final Fight CD over any arcade perfect version simply because it was so close to 100% perfect minus some colour and background animation in 2 or 3 scenes and the CD music is so awesome the arcade version just does not compare. I still say Strider Hiryu on the MD is one of the greatest conversions of all time too. Not to mention the PC Engine Arcade CD Neo Geo titles. I will NEVER know how the hell NEC Avenue screwed up with Strider Hiryu Aracde CD so badly.Of course for every Strider Hiryu and Final Fight CD there was Sengoku Densho (M-CD version is very good), Final Fight, King of Dragons, Undercover Cops and Super R-TYPE on the SFC. I also can't mention bad arcade ports without mentioning the TRAGIC US made Punisher on the MD. WTF WERE THEY THINKING!!! [/QUOTE] Hadn't considered the CD versions. I was stricly speaking for the cartridge version of arcade games which had less quality insounds and visuals. Mortal Kombat at home was nothing like at the arcades
splinter cell double agent on ps3....looked like crap! lost planet on ps3 again is looking very ps2ish to me
From this gen Madden springs to mind.
Outrun on the Atari ST.
[QUOTE=''creativeminded''][QUOTE=''austin_is_god''][QUOTE=''creativeminded''][QUOTE=''Panzer_Zwei'']Most Arcade ports during the 8/16-bit eras.[/QUOTE] Hands down. Well said. the arcades ports were shocking [/QUOTE]There was SOME shocking ports but not all arcade games sucked on consoles. Hell I still play my precious JP (of course) Final Fight CD over any arcade perfect version simply because it was so close to 100% perfect minus some colour and background animation in 2 or 3 scenes and the CD music is so awesome the arcade version just does not compare. I still say Strider Hiryu on the MD is one of the greatest conversions of all time too. Not to mention the PC Engine Arcade CD Neo Geo titles. I will NEVER know how the hell NEC Avenue screwed up with Strider Hiryu Aracde CD so badly.Of course for every Strider Hiryu and Final Fight CD there was Sengoku Densho (M-CD version is very good), Final Fight, King of Dragons, Undercover Cops and Super R-TYPE on the SFC. I also can't mention bad arcade ports without mentioning the TRAGIC US made Punisher on the MD. WTF WERE THEY THINKING!!! [/QUOTE] Hadn't considered the CD versions. I was stricly speaking for the cartridge version of arcade games which had less quality insounds and visuals. Mortal Kombat at home was nothing like at the arcades [/QUOTE]The CD versions were just as bad.The Arcade Card for the PC-Engine CD/Duo was pathetic. (I have one)It was a waste of money. The system never made the 16-bit cut, no matter how many cards they put out.
ANY arcade game ported to the NES/SNES. Revolution X comes to mind in particular...
i was going to say lost planet on the ps3..seriously..what the hell is capcom trying to pull?
The 360 has achieved roughly half the sa ...
Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.The 360 has achieved roughly half the sa ...
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''] Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE] Make this conclusion after it has hit the $199 price pointThe 360 has achieved roughly half the sa ...
thge wii has achieved all the sales of the gamecube in 1 year
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''] Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE] Make this conclusion after it has hit the $199 price point[/QUOTE] No thanks. Except for a small and very short spurt, price drops only sustain sales, they never raise them.
[QUOTE=''the_h_bomb'']thge wii has achieved all the sales of the gamecube in 1 year[/QUOTE]
And?
I think the competition is much more fierce this time around. Also, the Japanese refusal to integrate the 360 in with its homegrown products is starting to show its effect.
[QUOTE=''DAZZER7'']
only 40 that not that good
[QUOTE=''musicalmac''] And?[/QUOTE]and what?
the Xbox brand just isn't popular outside of Americagiven the RROD and if speculation that they are already pushing their next system out is true than it probably wont really surpass the original in sales
The 360 is doing way better than the xbox. When the xbox came out it struggled very much in sales and the ps2 kept outselling them by 5-6 mil each year. Amd it only sold abiut 26 mil after 4yrs. BUT.......the xbox never turned a profit for MS, even with the 50 bucks live offer, thats why MS pulled the plug from the 360 and this gen the 360 is making a profit within is 2nd year. So logically the 360 should stay for about 5-6yrs while MS hashas also confirmed the 360 will stay for 5+ years.
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good for it, i wish theyd fix the hardware though, as it stands right now next gen people will look back and say ''how many of those sales were because of replacement 360s?''
The 360 is doing way better than the xbox. When the xbox came out it struggled very much in sales and the ps2 kept outselling them by 5-6 mil each year. Amd it only sold abiut 26 mil after 4yrs. BUT.......the xbox never turned a profit for MS, even with the 50 bucks live offer, thats why MS pulled the plug from the 360 and this gen the 360 is making a profit within is 2nd year. So logically the 360 should stay for about 5-6yrs while MS hashas also confirmed the 360 will stay for 5+ years.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla'']Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE]Didn't the original Xbox get a price drop to $199 in it's first few months on the market?The Xbox sold 24 million in four years and the Xbox 360 sold 16-17 million in two years, how is that roughly half?
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''] Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE] Make this conclusion after it has hit the $199 price point[/QUOTE] No thanks. Except for a small and very short spurt, price drops only sustain sales, they never raise them.[/QUOTE]You're right, just look at the Playstation 3, that didn't boost sales at all!
[QUOTE=''deadmeat59''][QUOTE=''DAZZER7'']
[QUOTE=''BreakingPoint8''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla'']Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE]Didn't the original Xbox get a price drop to $199 in it's first few months on the market?The Xbox sold 24 million in four years and the Xbox 360 sold 16-17 million in two years, how is that roughly half?[/QUOTE] The Xbox 360 sold 12-13 million in two years. It's at 16-17 million NOW, three months after the two-year mark and after the big holiday season.
[QUOTE=''BreakingPoint8''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''] Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE] Make this conclusion after it has hit the $199 price point[/QUOTE] No thanks. Except for a small and very short spurt, price drops only sustain sales, they never raise them.[/QUOTE]You're right, just look at the Playstation 3, that didn't boost sales at all!
[/QUOTE] I can't tell if you're joking or not. The PS3's sales patterns haven't changed yet, despite multiple price drops and/or upgrades. It's still faaaaaar behind in North America, and it's ahead of the 360 but still far behind the Wii in both Japan and Europe.Also note that the 360 had a price drop this year AND an upgrade AND its biggest game, yet sold fewer than it did in its first year.
Consoles sell the most during the end of every generation.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''] Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE] Make this conclusion after it has hit the $199 price pointThe 360 has achieved roughly half the sa ...
thge wii has achieved all the sales of the gamecube in 1 year
[QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''] Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE] Make this conclusion after it has hit the $199 price point[/QUOTE] No thanks. Except for a small and very short spurt, price drops only sustain sales, they never raise them.
- It's kept a higher price point for much longer this time
- It's software sales are huge
- It's looking good for 35 - 40m sold by the end of this gen
[QUOTE=''the_h_bomb'']thge wii has achieved all the sales of the gamecube in 1 year[/QUOTE]
And?
I think the competition is much more fierce this time around. Also, the Japanese refusal to integrate the 360 in with its homegrown products is starting to show its effect.
[QUOTE=''DAZZER7'']
- It's kept a higher price point for much longer this time
- It's software sales are huge
- It's looking good for 35 - 40m sold by the end of this gen
only 40 that not that good
[QUOTE=''musicalmac''] And?[/QUOTE]and what?
the Xbox brand just isn't popular outside of Americagiven the RROD and if speculation that they are already pushing their next system out is true than it probably wont really surpass the original in sales
The 360 is doing way better than the xbox. When the xbox came out it struggled very much in sales and the ps2 kept outselling them by 5-6 mil each year. Amd it only sold abiut 26 mil after 4yrs. BUT.......the xbox never turned a profit for MS, even with the 50 bucks live offer, thats why MS pulled the plug from the 360 and this gen the 360 is making a profit within is 2nd year. So logically the 360 should stay for about 5-6yrs while MS hashas also confirmed the 360 will stay for 5+ years.
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good for it, i wish theyd fix the hardware though, as it stands right now next gen people will look back and say ''how many of those sales were because of replacement 360s?''
The 360 is doing way better than the xbox. When the xbox came out it struggled very much in sales and the ps2 kept outselling them by 5-6 mil each year. Amd it only sold abiut 26 mil after 4yrs. BUT.......the xbox never turned a profit for MS, even with the 50 bucks live offer, thats why MS pulled the plug from the 360 and this gen the 360 is making a profit within is 2nd year. So logically the 360 should stay for about 5-6yrs while MS hashas also confirmed the 360 will stay for 5+ years.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla'']Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE]Didn't the original Xbox get a price drop to $199 in it's first few months on the market?The Xbox sold 24 million in four years and the Xbox 360 sold 16-17 million in two years, how is that roughly half?
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''] Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE] Make this conclusion after it has hit the $199 price point[/QUOTE] No thanks. Except for a small and very short spurt, price drops only sustain sales, they never raise them.[/QUOTE]You're right, just look at the Playstation 3, that didn't boost sales at all!
[QUOTE=''deadmeat59''][QUOTE=''DAZZER7'']
- It's kept a higher price point for much longer this time
- It's software sales are huge
- It's looking good for 35 - 40m sold by the end of this gen
[QUOTE=''BreakingPoint8''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla'']Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE]Didn't the original Xbox get a price drop to $199 in it's first few months on the market?The Xbox sold 24 million in four years and the Xbox 360 sold 16-17 million in two years, how is that roughly half?[/QUOTE] The Xbox 360 sold 12-13 million in two years. It's at 16-17 million NOW, three months after the two-year mark and after the big holiday season.
[QUOTE=''BreakingPoint8''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''too_much_eslim''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''] Right now I believe it stands at around 16-17 million sold. It was at around 12-13 million back in November, two years after it launched, and its second year sales were lower than its first year sales. The Xbox achieved 25 million in four years. It looks like Microsoft's second effort won't be much more successful at reaching an audience than their first.[/QUOTE] Make this conclusion after it has hit the $199 price point[/QUOTE] No thanks. Except for a small and very short spurt, price drops only sustain sales, they never raise them.[/QUOTE]You're right, just look at the Playstation 3, that didn't boost sales at all!
[/QUOTE] I can't tell if you're joking or not. The PS3's sales patterns haven't changed yet, despite multiple price drops and/or upgrades. It's still faaaaaar behind in North America, and it's ahead of the 360 but still far behind the Wii in both Japan and Europe.Also note that the 360 had a price drop this year AND an upgrade AND its biggest game, yet sold fewer than it did in its first year.
Consoles sell the most during the end of every generation.
Why do people still say 120million PS2 u ...
I have seen it a lot on this forum people saying that the PS2 has 120 million users. I dont understand this. I thought the PS2 had 120 million units sold not users. A lot of people had PS2 break so they bought new ones. More people would have grown out of gaming or stopped using the PS2. Some more people would have bought a new version of the PS2 when it became so cheap just get get the silver version or the slim version. When you take all that into account then it no where near 120 million users.Dont get me wrong the PS2 did have and to some degee still does have a massive user base. What do you think.Why do people still say 120million PS2 u ...
because cows are desperate for amy type good newsWhy do people still say 120million PS2 u ...
Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.
[QUOTE=''Ibacai'']Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.[/QUOTE]Yes but to a lesser extent with new systems.Much better to look at current console sales and game sales as an indicator as to who and what is dominating the market.
I doubt that many people rebought PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?
[QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I doubt that many people rebougth PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?[/QUOTE] 20 consoles sold. =P
[QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I doubt that many people rebought PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?[/QUOTE]That is so very true!!!!
Counting units sold is the best way to do it. We don't know how many of those 120 million are unique buyers, but we also do not know how many of those 120 million were bought by one person, then sold at a later time to another user (thus, not being counted in the total). It is a flawed number, but we don't have much choice. It still blows away its competition from last generation, so what does it matter?
[QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I doubt that many people rebought PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?[/QUOTE]I'm sure quite a few people haev rebought PS2s by now, not like many of things are still in warranty but as part of 120 million I agree it wouldn't be significant.Its the number of people no longer using there PS2s and even more importantly buying games for it which is the factor.
You could use the same logic when counting any console's sales, though I have to admit, I know 5 people at the top of my head that are on at least their 4th PS2...
It's hard to say. Take the RRoD, for instance.
[QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Ibacai'']Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.[/QUOTE]Yes but to a lesser extent with new systems.Much better to look at current console sales and game sales as an indicator as to who and what is dominating the market.[/QUOTE]
True, and also the number of sku's and faulty hardware will also push numbers in different directions.
The point that I was making is that all we can go on is shipped numbers. Otherwise we're making uneducated guesses.
Does anyone honestly believe Sony had 60 million units RESOLD to every customer to make 120? Give me a break.
[QUOTE=''Ibacai''][QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Ibacai'']Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.[/QUOTE]Yes but to a lesser extent with new systems.Much better to look at current console sales and game sales as an indicator as to who and what is dominating the market.[/QUOTE] True, and also the number of sku's and faulty hardware will also push numbers in different directions. The point that I was making is that all we can go on is shipped numbers. Otherwise we're making uneducated guesses.[/QUOTE]Why can't they be educated guesses?Current Game sales and current hardware sales are pretty good indicators. I have never seen the point in making everything as simple as possbile just for point scoring. The game industry is a complex business and we should recognise that.
[QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']Does anyone honestly believe Sony had 60 million units RESOLD to every customer to make 120? Give me a break. [/QUOTE] No. Clearly they sold 6 per user, so the PS2 actually came in last place. It just had the best/most games.
[QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I doubt that many people rebought PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?[/QUOTE]I'm sure quite a few people haev rebought PS2s by now, not like many of things are still in warranty but as part of 120 million I agree it wouldn't be significant.Its the number of people no longer using there PS2s and even more importantly buying games for it which is the factor.[/QUOTE]I think it pointless to bring it up at all at this point. I wouldn't say more than 5 million of that number were people who bought more than one PS2. Besides, it's not as if anyone here bothers to bring up how many people are actually using their current gen systems, so I think the end number is more important than anything else.Although, if we're to bring up the PS2, we may as well bring up the original Xbox.
If that was a rule then I could only imagine the flamefests going on between the Xbox 360 and it's once at 33.3% defective rate. :?
[QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I think it pointless to bring it up at all at this point. I wouldn't say more than 5 million of that number were people who bought more than one PS2. Besides, it's not as if anyone here bothers to bring up how many people are actually using their current gen systems, so I think the end number is more important than anything else.Although, if we're to bring up the PS2, we may as well bring up the original Xbox.[/QUOTE]So then the PS1 is still second and the NES third?If not then its current performance that is important.
What about the PS2s that are used by more than one user? Like, for example, 2+ brothers and/or sisters?In my house two users used the same PS2, me and my brother.
[QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Ibacai''][QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Ibacai'']Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.[/QUOTE]Yes but to a lesser extent with new systems.Much better to look at current console sales and game sales as an indicator as to who and what is dominating the market.[/QUOTE] True, and also the number of sku's and faulty hardware will also push numbers in different directions. The point that I was making is that all we can go on is shipped numbers. Otherwise we're making uneducated guesses.[/QUOTE]Why can't they be educated guesses?Current Game sales and current hardware sales are pretty good indicators. I have never seen the point in making everything as simple as possbile just for point scoring. The game industry is a complex business and we should recognise that. [/QUOTE]
I meant uneducated guess when trying to determine ''true'' hardware sales based upon factors such as sku's, faulty hardware, and people just buying new systems. I didn't fully explain myself. It's no longer a number crunch but a guesstimate. Hardware trackers such as NPD can be used as educated guesses (Darn good guesses too) but not as fact.
But that said nothing is perfect and as you said the market is very complex. Just look at analysts and how often they are wrong. *shrug*
[QUOTE=''Ibacai'']I meant uneducated guess when trying to determine ''true'' hardware sales based upon factors such as sku's, faulty hardware, and people just buying new systems. It's no longer a number crunch but a guesstimate. But that said nothing is perfect and as you said the market is very complex. Just look at analysts and how often they are wrong. *shrug*[/QUOTE]Well obviously you cant do that but you can look at a system current marke share. I.e. Revenue spent on games and hardware in the last and current year. That still isnt perfect but I believe it paints a more accurate picture.
because cows are desperate for amy type good newsWhy do people still say 120million PS2 u ...
Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.
[QUOTE=''Ibacai'']Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.[/QUOTE]Yes but to a lesser extent with new systems.Much better to look at current console sales and game sales as an indicator as to who and what is dominating the market.
I doubt that many people rebought PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?
[QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I doubt that many people rebougth PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?[/QUOTE] 20 consoles sold. =P
[QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I doubt that many people rebought PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?[/QUOTE]That is so very true!!!!
Counting units sold is the best way to do it. We don't know how many of those 120 million are unique buyers, but we also do not know how many of those 120 million were bought by one person, then sold at a later time to another user (thus, not being counted in the total). It is a flawed number, but we don't have much choice. It still blows away its competition from last generation, so what does it matter?
[QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I doubt that many people rebought PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?[/QUOTE]I'm sure quite a few people haev rebought PS2s by now, not like many of things are still in warranty but as part of 120 million I agree it wouldn't be significant.Its the number of people no longer using there PS2s and even more importantly buying games for it which is the factor.
You could use the same logic when counting any console's sales, though I have to admit, I know 5 people at the top of my head that are on at least their 4th PS2...
It's hard to say. Take the RRoD, for instance.
[QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Ibacai'']Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.[/QUOTE]Yes but to a lesser extent with new systems.Much better to look at current console sales and game sales as an indicator as to who and what is dominating the market.[/QUOTE]
True, and also the number of sku's and faulty hardware will also push numbers in different directions.
The point that I was making is that all we can go on is shipped numbers. Otherwise we're making uneducated guesses.
Does anyone honestly believe Sony had 60 million units RESOLD to every customer to make 120? Give me a break.
[QUOTE=''Ibacai''][QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Ibacai'']Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.[/QUOTE]Yes but to a lesser extent with new systems.Much better to look at current console sales and game sales as an indicator as to who and what is dominating the market.[/QUOTE] True, and also the number of sku's and faulty hardware will also push numbers in different directions. The point that I was making is that all we can go on is shipped numbers. Otherwise we're making uneducated guesses.[/QUOTE]Why can't they be educated guesses?Current Game sales and current hardware sales are pretty good indicators. I have never seen the point in making everything as simple as possbile just for point scoring. The game industry is a complex business and we should recognise that.
[QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']Does anyone honestly believe Sony had 60 million units RESOLD to every customer to make 120? Give me a break. [/QUOTE] No. Clearly they sold 6 per user, so the PS2 actually came in last place. It just had the best/most games.
[QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I doubt that many people rebought PS2's. Additionally, if repairs are counted as sales, where does the 360 stand?[/QUOTE]I'm sure quite a few people haev rebought PS2s by now, not like many of things are still in warranty but as part of 120 million I agree it wouldn't be significant.Its the number of people no longer using there PS2s and even more importantly buying games for it which is the factor.[/QUOTE]I think it pointless to bring it up at all at this point. I wouldn't say more than 5 million of that number were people who bought more than one PS2. Besides, it's not as if anyone here bothers to bring up how many people are actually using their current gen systems, so I think the end number is more important than anything else.Although, if we're to bring up the PS2, we may as well bring up the original Xbox.
If that was a rule then I could only imagine the flamefests going on between the Xbox 360 and it's once at 33.3% defective rate. :?
[QUOTE=''Thompsonwhore'']I think it pointless to bring it up at all at this point. I wouldn't say more than 5 million of that number were people who bought more than one PS2. Besides, it's not as if anyone here bothers to bring up how many people are actually using their current gen systems, so I think the end number is more important than anything else.Although, if we're to bring up the PS2, we may as well bring up the original Xbox.[/QUOTE]So then the PS1 is still second and the NES third?If not then its current performance that is important.
What about the PS2s that are used by more than one user? Like, for example, 2+ brothers and/or sisters?In my house two users used the same PS2, me and my brother.
[QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Ibacai''][QUOTE=''cakeorrdeath''][QUOTE=''Ibacai'']Because that reasoning is used for all consoles. Otherwise the numbers would be lower for all systems.[/QUOTE]Yes but to a lesser extent with new systems.Much better to look at current console sales and game sales as an indicator as to who and what is dominating the market.[/QUOTE] True, and also the number of sku's and faulty hardware will also push numbers in different directions. The point that I was making is that all we can go on is shipped numbers. Otherwise we're making uneducated guesses.[/QUOTE]Why can't they be educated guesses?Current Game sales and current hardware sales are pretty good indicators. I have never seen the point in making everything as simple as possbile just for point scoring. The game industry is a complex business and we should recognise that. [/QUOTE]
I meant uneducated guess when trying to determine ''true'' hardware sales based upon factors such as sku's, faulty hardware, and people just buying new systems. I didn't fully explain myself. It's no longer a number crunch but a guesstimate. Hardware trackers such as NPD can be used as educated guesses (Darn good guesses too) but not as fact.
But that said nothing is perfect and as you said the market is very complex. Just look at analysts and how often they are wrong. *shrug*
[QUOTE=''Ibacai'']I meant uneducated guess when trying to determine ''true'' hardware sales based upon factors such as sku's, faulty hardware, and people just buying new systems. It's no longer a number crunch but a guesstimate. But that said nothing is perfect and as you said the market is very complex. Just look at analysts and how often they are wrong. *shrug*[/QUOTE]Well obviously you cant do that but you can look at a system current marke share. I.e. Revenue spent on games and hardware in the last and current year. That still isnt perfect but I believe it paints a more accurate picture.
the xbox 360 has a 33% failure rate?
this rumour is used time and time again, and it is used intended to be fact to inform people.....to detere peoplenow didnt this come to be when some game shop employees saidthe failure rates in our shop could be as high as 33% , that somehow got on the net and became an unquestionable factheres some more nonsical rubbish for you to spread around the net, remember its on the net so its THE TRUTH, so you cant question it ! AND it has been said by games shop workers and they know all and see all!games shop workers said SSBB will be the worst game this year
games shop workers said the next halo will be on the playstation 3
games shop workers said gran tourismo is now a 360 exclusivegames shop workers said that il start eating healty and go to the gym 3 times a week ( like i told my girlfriend :D )games shop workers said that halo 3 sales could be as low a 15 copies for that is how many they have seen sold.games shop workers said there will be a console that will play ps3 , 360 and wii games all in one!!now go spread your lies!!!!!the xbox 360 has a 33% failure rate?
Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. the xbox 360 has a 33% failure rate?
[QUOTE=''NielsNL'']Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. [/QUOTE]Yeah Sony made up the RROD it's a lie!!!
[QUOTE=''NielsNL'']Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. [/QUOTE] Nobody is saying it doesn't break, just the 33% fail rate is total BS.
It's much higher. I have 2 friends who had to send theirs in within 5 months of buying it. Then got replacements, which adds +2 to the ''sales'' charts for M$. PS3 has something of a 0.3% fail rate. And I believe that as my friend has had his PS2 since 2001 and it still works like a charm and I trust Sony puts the same quality build in all their consoles. The 360 is a good console, but because of it's horrible fault rate and no potential for next-gen gaming in the coming years, it will be dominated by the PS3 until the next XBOX releases and then we will see.
Well, for me it's been 50% so far. ;)
[QUOTE=''HunidRacks'']And I believe that as my friend has had his PS2 since 2001 and it still works like a charm and I trust Sony puts the same quality build in all their consoles. .[/QUOTE]Lolsauce
Havn't some people gone through 4, 5 ,6...As many as 12 I have heardIf it breaks 5 times on you, thats a %500 percent rate
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod'']Well, for me it's been 50% so far. ;)[/QUOTE]Heck, you guys will be clamoring for that 33% number after a few more anecdotal tales hit the board ;)
[QUOTE=''sexy_chimp''] [QUOTE=''HunidRacks'']And I believe that as my friend has had his PS2 since 2001 and it still works like a charm and I trust Sony puts the same quality build in all their consoles. .[/QUOTE]Lolsauce[/QUOTE] hey its true..iu still have a launch ps2 and it still working
[QUOTE=''DXGreat1_HGL''] [QUOTE=''NielsNL'']Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. [/QUOTE]Nobody is saying it doesn't break, just the 33% fail rate is total BS. [/QUOTE]In my experience if a rumour is that persistant it's usually true. There's a Dutch saying which covers it translating: where there's smoke there's a fire.
[QUOTE=''DXGreat1_HGL''][QUOTE=''NielsNL'']Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. [/QUOTE] Nobody is saying it doesn't break, just the 33% fail rate is total BS. [/QUOTE]Agreed. I don't care though, Microsoft replaced mine and my friends.
Its actually around the 10% mark now
[QUOTE=''thageneral3''] Havn't some people gone through 4, 5 ,6...As many as 12 I have heardIf it breaks 5 times on you, thats a %500 percent rate[/QUOTE] No thats still 100% failure rate
I'm pretty sure the failure rate was 100% at one point.
He's right the 360 has a 33% failure rate... but that's because people don't take care of theres, i do had mine since launch =]
[QUOTE=''thageneral3'']Havn't some people gone through 4, 5 ,6...As many as 12 I have heardIf it breaks 5 times on you, thats a %500 percent rate[/QUOTE]I *heard* that Bush will be elected for a third term. Ah, good old hearsay.
[QUOTE=''Halochief_101'']He's right the 360 has a 33% failure rate... but that's because people don't take care of theres, i do had mine since launch =][/QUOTE]Gotta knock on wood first.
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''thageneral3''] Havn't some people gone through 4, 5 ,6...As many as 12 I have heardIf it breaks 5 times on you, thats a %500 percent rate[/QUOTE] No thats still 100% failure rate[/QUOTE] No, the ratio is 5:1. 500%M$ either fixes yours, or gives you a refurbished one (fixed after it ringed on someone else). So the same system fails 5 times. 5 fails to one system. 5:1 =500%
Its not 33%, its 35%;) The 360 has horrible hardware, people are on their 5th :|
games shop workers said the next halo will be on the playstation 3
games shop workers said gran tourismo is now a 360 exclusivegames shop workers said that il start eating healty and go to the gym 3 times a week ( like i told my girlfriend :D )games shop workers said that halo 3 sales could be as low a 15 copies for that is how many they have seen sold.games shop workers said there will be a console that will play ps3 , 360 and wii games all in one!!now go spread your lies!!!!!the xbox 360 has a 33% failure rate?
Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. the xbox 360 has a 33% failure rate?
[QUOTE=''NielsNL'']Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. [/QUOTE]Yeah Sony made up the RROD it's a lie!!!
[QUOTE=''NielsNL'']Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. [/QUOTE] Nobody is saying it doesn't break, just the 33% fail rate is total BS.
It's much higher. I have 2 friends who had to send theirs in within 5 months of buying it. Then got replacements, which adds +2 to the ''sales'' charts for M$. PS3 has something of a 0.3% fail rate. And I believe that as my friend has had his PS2 since 2001 and it still works like a charm and I trust Sony puts the same quality build in all their consoles. The 360 is a good console, but because of it's horrible fault rate and no potential for next-gen gaming in the coming years, it will be dominated by the PS3 until the next XBOX releases and then we will see.
Well, for me it's been 50% so far. ;)
[QUOTE=''HunidRacks'']And I believe that as my friend has had his PS2 since 2001 and it still works like a charm and I trust Sony puts the same quality build in all their consoles. .[/QUOTE]Lolsauce
Havn't some people gone through 4, 5 ,6...As many as 12 I have heardIf it breaks 5 times on you, thats a %500 percent rate
[QUOTE=''Bgrngod'']Well, for me it's been 50% so far. ;)[/QUOTE]Heck, you guys will be clamoring for that 33% number after a few more anecdotal tales hit the board ;)
[QUOTE=''sexy_chimp''] [QUOTE=''HunidRacks'']And I believe that as my friend has had his PS2 since 2001 and it still works like a charm and I trust Sony puts the same quality build in all their consoles. .[/QUOTE]Lolsauce[/QUOTE] hey its true..iu still have a launch ps2 and it still working
[QUOTE=''DXGreat1_HGL''] [QUOTE=''NielsNL'']Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. [/QUOTE]Nobody is saying it doesn't break, just the 33% fail rate is total BS. [/QUOTE]In my experience if a rumour is that persistant it's usually true. There's a Dutch saying which covers it translating: where there's smoke there's a fire.
[QUOTE=''DXGreat1_HGL''][QUOTE=''NielsNL'']Yeah you're right. The 360 never breaks. [/QUOTE] Nobody is saying it doesn't break, just the 33% fail rate is total BS. [/QUOTE]Agreed. I don't care though, Microsoft replaced mine and my friends.
Its actually around the 10% mark now
[QUOTE=''thageneral3''] Havn't some people gone through 4, 5 ,6...As many as 12 I have heardIf it breaks 5 times on you, thats a %500 percent rate[/QUOTE] No thats still 100% failure rate
I'm pretty sure the failure rate was 100% at one point.
He's right the 360 has a 33% failure rate... but that's because people don't take care of theres, i do had mine since launch =]
[QUOTE=''thageneral3'']Havn't some people gone through 4, 5 ,6...As many as 12 I have heardIf it breaks 5 times on you, thats a %500 percent rate[/QUOTE]I *heard* that Bush will be elected for a third term. Ah, good old hearsay.
[QUOTE=''Halochief_101'']He's right the 360 has a 33% failure rate... but that's because people don't take care of theres, i do had mine since launch =][/QUOTE]Gotta knock on wood first.
[QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''thageneral3''] Havn't some people gone through 4, 5 ,6...As many as 12 I have heardIf it breaks 5 times on you, thats a %500 percent rate[/QUOTE] No thats still 100% failure rate[/QUOTE] No, the ratio is 5:1. 500%M$ either fixes yours, or gives you a refurbished one (fixed after it ringed on someone else). So the same system fails 5 times. 5 fails to one system. 5:1 =500%
Its not 33%, its 35%;) The 360 has horrible hardware, people are on their 5th :|
how do u beat the fish beast in turok?
ok i've tryed about 8 times trying to beat this thing and well now im asking for help..any ideas? how do u beat the fish beast in turok?
Wrong forum. Take it to the Turok forums.how do u beat the fish beast in turok?
how bout you ask in the 360 or ps3 boards, you might actualy get an awnser
throw some explosives at his ass
Dont know. I thought the game sucked from the demo I played. Go return that game and get DMC 4.
Hit its weak spot for massive damage.
[QUOTE=''black_awpN1''] Dont know. I thought the game sucked from the demo I played. Go return that game and get DMC 4. [/QUOTE]Your post is full of fail. He should wait for NG2 instead.
[QUOTE=''Miyomatic''][QUOTE=''black_awpN1''] Dont know. I thought the game sucked from the demo I played. Go return that game and get DMC 4. [/QUOTE]Your post is full of fail. He should wait for NG2 instead.[/QUOTE] DMC 4 is going is the better game IMO. However, i havent played NG 2 obviously, so I dont know. I like DMC more than NG.
Wrong forum. Take it to the Turok forums.how do u beat the fish beast in turok?
how bout you ask in the 360 or ps3 boards, you might actualy get an awnser
throw some explosives at his ass
Dont know. I thought the game sucked from the demo I played. Go return that game and get DMC 4.
Hit its weak spot for massive damage.
[QUOTE=''black_awpN1''] Dont know. I thought the game sucked from the demo I played. Go return that game and get DMC 4. [/QUOTE]Your post is full of fail. He should wait for NG2 instead.
[QUOTE=''Miyomatic''][QUOTE=''black_awpN1''] Dont know. I thought the game sucked from the demo I played. Go return that game and get DMC 4. [/QUOTE]Your post is full of fail. He should wait for NG2 instead.[/QUOTE] DMC 4 is going is the better game IMO. However, i havent played NG 2 obviously, so I dont know. I like DMC more than NG.
Uh oh...looks like Lost Odyssey is gonna ...
.Uh oh...looks like Lost Odyssey is gonna ...
Nope. AA at best. GS has not sold out to no one. Uh oh...looks like Lost Odyssey is gonna ...
lol kinda funny but i doubt high A low AA
[QUOTE=''Pdiddy105'']
.[/QUOTE]Oh you joker you!
Nope. They had ads for Jericho and KuF, too. 7.0!
i say 8.0, it was a fun demo when i played it, lomg load times, but man did it remind of ff7, but this had more. but with todays standards of graphics and extras features a 8.0.
LO is a must play for any rpg fan owning a 360, the demo was great, the famistu demo disc with lo on it.
Looked a bit like Dynasty Warriors to me.
[QUOTE=''black_awpN1'']Nope. AA at best. GS has not sold out to no one. [/QUOTE]jeff? remember that? everyone is leaving and theyre all talking about how ''i couldnt put up with 'it' anymore''
[QUOTE=''p2rus''] [QUOTE=''black_awpN1'']Nope. AA at best. GS has not sold out to no one. [/QUOTE]jeff? remember that? everyone is leaving and theyre all talking about how ''i couldnt put up with 'it' anymore''[/QUOTE] Speculation at best. Untill we have Concrete evidence, ill believe what the hotspot crew says. People need to take the tin foil hats off. ITs like Alex said on that one Hotspot episode, ''people have already made up their minds regardless''
[QUOTE=''p2rus''] [QUOTE=''black_awpN1'']Nope. AA at best. GS has not sold out to no one. [/QUOTE]jeff? remember that? everyone is leaving and theyre all talking about how ''i couldnt put up with 'it' anymore''[/QUOTE] YEah, and SO many of the games advertised on the site have been handed AAA....
[QUOTE=''black_awpN1''][QUOTE=''p2rus''] [QUOTE=''black_awpN1'']Nope. AA at best. GS has not sold out to no one. [/QUOTE]jeff? remember that? everyone is leaving and theyre all talking about how ''i couldnt put up with 'it' anymore''[/QUOTE] Speculation at best. Untill we have Concrete evidence, ill believe what the hotspot crew says. People need to take the in foil hats off. ITs like Alex said on that one Hotspot episode, ''people have already made up their minds regardless'' [/QUOTE]and a week later he left GS along with 90% of the main staff
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